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Post by Maeve on Dec 24, 2011 15:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by Kriss on Dec 24, 2011 16:34:35 GMT -5
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Rongar
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Post by Rongar on Dec 24, 2011 16:46:41 GMT -5
Insanely long is correct! LOL LOved it though! It does make a roundabout kind of sense though.
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Post by Bryn on Dec 24, 2011 18:08:32 GMT -5
..now you all know why I love season 2
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Post by Doubar on Dec 25, 2011 4:39:58 GMT -5
Wow, Lass, this is... insanely long but amazing! I just scanned a few parts till now though as I'm on the way of leaving but I couldn't help having a look at this. And I gotta say, wow, that looks like so much work! But it sure was an interesting experience for you. And it's intriguing to read about all those interpretations. I must admit the bigger part of the things you mentioned never crossed my mind, but I cannot say they don't make sense. ;P I bow to you for putting to much effort in this, and I'll give it a proper read as soon as I can. @wind: Oh, and btw, dear: I'll reply to your mail as soon as possible, alright? *hugs*
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Kahlan
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"He has taken everything from me, leaving me alone in this world."
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Post by Kahlan on Dec 25, 2011 18:06:45 GMT -5
wow, I've only read 3 or 4 episodes, but all this sounds really interesting!!! And to be honest, I even opened the video of each episode to watch the parts you're talking about. ;D I'll read the rest ASAP, and I'm just completely looking forward to see my partner's videos, even if I have no idea to how she's gonna picture all this. But I'm sure it will be great. and of course, if I can help in any way, you know where to find me . All in all, it's an awesome job that you did there, Maeve. Very deep and impressive. *applause*
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Post by banmaixanh on Dec 26, 2011 8:28:26 GMT -5
Oh!!! I have my plan to write something like this, not all but some episodes which I was angry when I watched them, but you did it first. I will read it when I have time. However, I've taken a look, and I can see it's very lovely. I can't wait until I'm free to read it. Not now. I'm busy until the end of next next week when my vacation starts. (It starts on January 19th but we often have a week with less work than usual before the vacation. It's the national vacation.)
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Post by Kriss on Dec 26, 2011 14:04:45 GMT -5
It took me two evenings but I READ IT! ;D First of all, once again big "WOW " for you, sis It's really amazing stuff, great project and what's the most important it's very, very well done, with all the details and even if it's looonnnggg, still it's pretty nice and easy to read Secondly, believe me or not but while reading it I felt like it would be my own words, like you would write down my minds but just with adding some of missed by me and some of yours. I am so amazed and so inspired for making videos! The SacrificeIndeed, he is mad! And as for loosing his time, actually for me he was loosing his time running after some stranger, clowns team or crazy monster but anyway... His " " while he "must" help Bryn is visible! ;D All the things in this episode are happening too fast. I think that "the-in-the-meantime" I mean, like a night after all these was hard time for Sinbad -> his transformation The Return Of The RoninI think that you missed one moment: Just after walking out from the tample, when he is staying alone for a while... or didn't you? Heart And SoulAya! ;D Doesn't he? ;D The Voyage To HellThe moment at the end when he is watching Dermott would be so awsome for many vids if Bryn didn't show up there.... Ali Rashid And The ThievesShirez -> no comment about her person itself, not at all Yes, he chose the easy way but isn't it so human? The GiftOne of these few small reasons why I like season 2 -> "The Gift" itslef and Ayden, he has that somemething! I know I said it already but I really enjoy watching that episode, even if the plot is somehow stupid, still I like it and thinks a lot how would it look with Maeve, a lot. Maybe it's a good idea for a fic or a vid-fic ;D The Curse Of The GorgonsWell, I think that I don't need to say anything here, I have already showed it in my vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vNy5Gqb6Mo&list=UUJQML_ZM2PSxl9rbsX_awig&index=4&feature=plcpThe Beast of Basra
I would say that he needs her here. The things with Doubar would be much easier for him if she was there. I know it! The MonsterI don't find anything cute at all The PassengersThe whole circus would not take place if Maeve was on the Nomad. She would never let something like that happen. But since she wasn't, Sinbad's mind was week and there we go... The InvadersWhat about the moment with a baby?! And again stars-scene would be awsome if... The Book of BeforeAnd that enthusiasm at the beginning. I'm sure it's just after the "talk" or whatever with Dim-Dim, because he again knew, was sure that Maeve is save. A City Under PlagueHe is jealous that Firouz and Velda can be together that's why he walks so fast after ordering him to kiss her. The EmpressAgain! Nothing would ever happen if Maeve was around. Week minds. End of story. (look at "The Passenagers") Castle KeepDoctor's orders rock here ;D Still Life exactly! I thought the same! The Gryphon’s TaleHis talk with Diana is so pitiful. You think that she really is so empty that she hasn't seen he doesn't care at all... The Beast of the DarkIt's cool! He is so "whatever" at Bryn and Mutaro. ;D ;D ;D He is like "She wants to stay? Well, not a big deal!" ;D ;D Survival RunDara as empty as Diana. If they meet they will be friends. The Minotaur
It's one of these episodes which I don't really know, because I don't like to watch it. I don't have anything to say then... Stalkers.... _________________________________ RuminaOnce again, sis well done. I have got already some draft for the videos. I think it will be more than just one video and I'm not sure if I will be able to capture everything ;D KahlanSure, I know where to find you ;D ;D
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Post by Kahlan on Dec 26, 2011 17:38:47 GMT -5
The best comment ever !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You know what? all this inspires me for another kind of video, different from the "Maeve's seeing pool" idea but... Well, well, well, I'll think about all this... ;D
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Post by Rongar on Dec 26, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what 2K comes up with together and as individuals!
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Post by Kriss on Dec 27, 2011 7:24:11 GMT -5
The best comment ever !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Yeah, I better keep to myself what I have to say about this episode. You must tell me more about this ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Doubar on Dec 27, 2011 10:32:11 GMT -5
Very interesting. Very interesting! I read the frst few eps and gotta say, I enjoy reading what you found, Lass. There are quite some things that made me smile as I never looked upon them the way you did, but some other really made me go all "wow, that totally makes sense ". The SacrificeNot much to say about this one. I can hardly disagree. x) The Return of the RoninAww, now that's a sweet interpretation! *likes* I agree whole-heartedly! And though I'm not sure, but I could well imagine that yes, this was no coincidence. Bryn and Sinbad were meant to be linked through the bracelets and as we know from the interview Naha gave after the show ended, it was never clear whether Sinbad and Bryn were to become a couple in the future. Which automatically means: they were not meant to be one in S2 either. I guess the whole romance-like plot between Sinbad and Bryn was something that Naha had no real influence on and which wasn't what he wanted. So yes, I see it just like you do: I believe them to have a strong link, one that would make them be like siblings - bound to each other by fate instead of blood. And I, too, believe that the love that Sinbad feels for Bryn is more of the love a brother would have for his sister. Plus, in my world Bryn belongs to someone else anyway (and yes, there is so much evidence for that in the season, too ... lol... maybe I should write that down, too, and together we would give a whole new meaning to S2, yay! xD). ;D Heart and Soul *snortgiggles* And Maeve would have fried him for doing that. I bet. ;D Honestly though, personally I always understood that Sinbad looks to his crew before kissing Kalila, because he wants to make sure, they, too, think it's safe to fulfil her this wish. *shrugs* Maeve was the only sorceress around, as was Bryn in that moment, so before agreeing to something that could cost him his life, he would want to make sure someone knowing the magical world would think it to be okay, too. But of course your interpretation is sweeter than mine. ^^ Interesting. I never really noticed that one I gotta say. I always shrugged it off as him being somewhat shaken by what happens; by Kalila's end and her words as here, for a first time in the series (correct me if I'm wrong) a rather evil character turns into someone you cannot help but pity somehow. As for the dark veil though: hah, that's really astounding! I never took notice of that either! But I, too, would have no other explanation for it right now than the one you have. Cool. The GiftAha, I like your thoughts and think most of them to be pretty sensible. Nice job there. The Beast of BasraVery nice ideas there, dear. I must admit though that with Doubar's life being at stake, I'm not sure whether Maeve would be that permanently on his mind. True, maybe he run off alone because he just got used to such actions ever since she went missing, but while adrenaline is pumping through one's veines, one hardly does think anymore about things like that. Let alone that personally I think that Doubar could well have run off alone as well if only he had the "right" reasons to do so. But that's just my POV. In any case though I must admit that I would think Sinbad to just be happy to have his brother back at the end. Because, while of course he still hurts, you must take into account that Maeve's gone for several months then already, and his brother means about as much to him as she does, so yeah... personally I just think him to be relieved that moment. *But just to make sure: I do not mean to critize you, dear. I'm just adding my own ideas to yours. Oooh, but right: I never found Sinbad to be pretty jealous there, too. Maybe more annoyed like any big brother would be if their little sister was flirting with some bloke they just got to know. Hihi. All in all: it really is most interesting to read what you found. And I look forward to reading up on the other eps as well. Well done, Lass! @kriss: Hm, in some ways, yes. Because he would have someone to understand his pain, even though he is not aware of it. After all, Maeve, too, sort of lost her brother to a curse. On the other hand though even Maeve would not be able take away the pain I think. And truth be spoken, I'd even be kinda disappointed if Sinbad would have taken it so much easier to lose Doubar only because Maeve is there.
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Post by Sinbad on Dec 27, 2011 12:02:18 GMT -5
Oy *adds this thread to her extending reading list*
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Post by Maeve on Dec 27, 2011 14:16:39 GMT -5
All my stars!! I have a lot of things to comment on… @all: I know, I know…It’s insanely long and it takes forever to read it all but you know me, when I start writing I easily get carried away…Lol! Sorry… Now… @kriss The Return Of The RoninI think that you missed one moment: Just after walking out from the tample, when he is staying alone for a while... or didn't you? Well…that episode is among those who needed a little final check-up but I was so worn out with everything that I didn’t survey it as thoroughly as I would have liked to. I’ll update it in a moment. I know!!! Aye, it is. But it still hurts for Maeve to see him like that… Aye! Hayden is a really great character indeed!! I would so love it if we could include him at some point in the rpg!! It would be amazing!! ;D Indeed, your vid says it all. Well I did. I sincerely did. Bryn is really sweet with Uruk, wanting to help him and free him from the mysterious evil clutches that has him trapped, and Sinbad, as the big brother that he is to her, does everything he can to help her. Well, I don’t think the whole circus could have been avoided with Maeve around, but I do believe that she would have been as suspicious as Atib, probably even more, and she would’ve warned Sinbad about it and kept a watchful eye on him, and if Kundalini had managed to hypnotize him even so, the spell would certainly have been easier to break because what unites Maeve and Sinbad is much stronger than the bond he shares with Bryn. ;D Just some random observation that made me laugh, that’s all. ;D Aye, but that’s if Dim-Dim even said anything about her… He doesn’t walk that fast…And even if he’s jealous, he’s happy for Firouz at the same time. Well, again, I don’t think Maeve would’ve been able to prevent anything, but she surely would’ve put up a bigger fight to get him out of Hitria’s grip than Bryn did. No…I don’t think she is empty…She’s just naïve. She loves him and she doesn’t want to believe that there is someone else in his life. Well he’s not completely emotionless and impassive. He loves Bryn as his little sister. True he doesn’t much care whether Mutaro has a thing for her, but he DOES care about the fact that she’s willing to sacrifice herself to stay on the island. He feels responsible for her and he’s worried about her safety. He’s having the same reaction he would have had for any other member of his crew. Except maybe for Doubar and Maeve, whom he would have argued with more fervently. Again, I don’t think she’s empty at all. She watched the man she loved being murdered in front of her and she was accused to be the one wielding the knife. She suffered a lot. And somehow she feels drawn to Sinbad because she can sense he went through a similar kind of pain. That doesn’t make her empty. That makes her human. I’m sure it will be awesome as always! @doubar Thank you! Hmm…I wonder who you’re talking about… ;D She wouldn’t have been able to! Her wrists were chained on the arms of the chair! ;D The only thing she would’ve been able to do was to blush insufferably! ;D Aye, that’s one way of looking at it, too. But by bringing her heart back to Kalila, and by burning it like she did, I think that deep down he knew he’d be alright because the curse she was under was lifted. Aye, I agree with Doubar here. Losing his brother, having to kill him himself, wouldn’t have been any easier for Sinbad if Maeve had been around. The finality would have remained the same.
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Post by Maeve on Dec 27, 2011 14:41:43 GMT -5
Oops! Missed this one.. @doubar: No problem, honey. I totally agree with your point of view. Doubar is the main thing on Sinbad's mind from the moment he gets bitten. But when he's staring out to the sea, it just seems to me like he's been there for a looooong time, trying to sort the hellish situation out and struggling to find another solution to free his brother, and brooding over a lot of things. And I totally agree with you that those things, from beginning to end, concern Doubar, who's been a brother, a father, a friend, a confident and a protector to him ever since he was a baby. But, since with this project I mainly focused my energies on the moments where Maeve was on his mind, here I concentrated on that moment and emphasized it. Because I DO believe that he's mad at her a little at that moment, because she's the reason he's grown so reckless. But I know that that thought about her must have been very fleeting considering how devastated he was about Doubar. It's just that to stay true to my project's purpose, I placed my emphasis on that little fleeting thought about Maeve. As for Doubar venturing alone, you're absolutely right when you say he would have done so if he had had a good reason to. And that's just the difference me thinks. The situation was rather dangerous and Sinbad ordered everyone one not to play hero, but at the first noise he heard, instead of alarming the others, he himself, the captain, just tiptoed away alone, not heeding his own warning. I don’t think Doubar would’ve done that. But now, that’s just my point of view.
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