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Post by manche on Jun 5, 2020 13:39:44 GMT -5
One interesting thing, this episode was aired in our country as the last in the first season. What do you think if it really was the last episode of the series, would it work for you as the final episode? Before I found that the second season exists, it seemed to me as a good ending of the whole series. The final talk of the crew by the tiller had the feeling of crew sailing together, having good times and new adventures waiting somewhere behind the horizon. It reminds me the end of Hell House a little.
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Post by manche on Dec 21, 2019 13:34:25 GMT -5
Ooooh, interesting!!! Now that's a tough question indeed. Tough because he obviously loves both people, though in different ways. Doubar is his only family, his guide and best friend. The bond those two share is deep and it's love of the purest kind. I assume he'd be devastated if Maeve would have killed him. On the other hand, Doubar is quite a good bit older than Sinbad, and I think there was always an unspoken knowledge between them that Doubar was likely to die first. Not only because of that, but also because we all know he'd sacrifice himself for his younger brother if he had to. In "Village vanishes" we saw Sinbad cry openly about Doubar's "passing", yet he remained strong enough to go on. In the Werewolf episode he was even willing to kill him. On the other hand, there is Maeve. Someone he's only known for a few months, but he's fallen hard for her - we all know that. What connects them is special and while working on a whole different level than the love that's between the two brothers it's no less beautiful, and not necessarily weaker. If we watch S2 from a M/S shipper point of view we can see what losing Maeve has done to Sinbad and it shows that he didn't deal well with it at all. So, concerning the question we have strong evidence that he'd suffer a big deal. To be fair though, we have nothing to compare this with as Doubar never went missing for long in the show. To come to some kind of conclusion: I honestly can't say what would have been worse for Sinbad. I am tending a bit towards saying that losing Doubar would have been worse, just because they've spent years together whereas he and Maeve have only known each other for months. So yeah, I'm voting for Doubar, but only by a hair's breadth. As for the second question though: I really think it doesn't matter who would have survived, because the relationship to them would have taken a similar course. And that's not because of Sinbad but because of the survivor. Neither Doubar nor Maeve would have been able to ever look Sinbad in the eyes again. Their guilt would have been to great, as would have been their pain. We often said that they were like siblings to each other, too, Doubar and Maeve. I don't think they could have ever forgiven themselves if something had happened, no matter whether it was a spell that blinded them or not. Of course, with both there would have been the chance that Sinbad and the survivor were able to pull through as I cannot see Sinbad blaming either Maeve or his brother, but things would certainly have never been the same again. At least, that's what I think. One thought towards this, what if one of these affected people or the rest of the crew had only the hallucination that Maeve/Doubar is really dead? It would be the nightmare which would frighten them all to death undoubtedly. By the way, I was little surprised that Dermott did not appear there with the others during the fight. He could prevent Doubar in killing his sister quicker than Sinbad, maybe he would even woke him up from his hallucination (when he forced Trickster to reveal his true form).
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Post by manche on Dec 21, 2019 13:33:17 GMT -5
Happy Birthday to you, Distant Lands
Amazing that this place is existing so long. As Serendib said great that we all met here. You are all amazing, guys.
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Post by manche on Oct 26, 2019 15:15:03 GMT -5
I actually also do not need such exact division in the story, but I remembered the discussion in this post about it when I was writing a passage and I tried to think it through. It was a good fun.
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Post by manche on Oct 26, 2019 12:53:47 GMT -5
I also do not like this episode very much, hearing of Rongar's voice is the biggest plus of this episode, more interesting than the plot, aliens or the secret of these bracelets.
It still would be our Rongar, but sudden ability to talk again would certainly change his character in a way, I do not dare to guess the extent of this. As I wrote, I am not sure myself if I would like this change, I was only thinking... Because it would not be so impossible that the aliens would have such ability. When they managed to create his talking copy.
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Post by manche on Oct 26, 2019 12:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks for your interest. I must admit that you have valid points and that my theory has some holes but i will try to explain it.
It seemed impossible to me that all crewmembers would have his their cabin, the ship is not big enough for this. There could be a few rooms which were used for different purposes (storage rooms or something like this). I was thinking that sailors are used to travel in conditions which are connected with the sea but guests could feel a little uncomfortably on the board so the crew would turn these cabins for them which would give the guests the bigger comfort during the voyage. So this is why are these cabins used for guests mainly.
Firouz, Maeve and Bryn have their worplace because they need some room when they want to do something connected with magic or science. They could take the work into the galley or the common room sometimes, but they do not want to bother the other crewmen during the time when they do not have the duty. And Sinbad.... the captain should have his own cabin, but he wishes to be on equal terms with his crew, he does not want any extra advantages for himself from his title of the captain, this is the reason why he sleeps in the common room with the others in my story. He goes into his quarter when he wants to be alone for a moment (thinking about Maeve or something like this).
Ok, those are my reasons for such a division of the quarters. I hope it makes sense a little, although certainly there is room for next valid points.
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Post by manche on Oct 25, 2019 12:26:56 GMT -5
I was thinking about this problem with dividing of the ship during writing my story, so if someone has the interest this is my idea for the division of the ship.
Mainly there are only two grids on Nomad, one on the bow, the second above the galley. I take that this enchanted grid from Little Miss Magic as a mistake in the episode, as we never saw it there before or later, the same one counts for the full roof in The Isle of Bliss.
When we enter into the galley, there is a cabin for guests right to the stairs. When we go straight in the galley we would get into its separate part where Maeve and Firouz were seen working in these mentioned episodes and there maybe would be a small room for storing of some smaller objects behind this space.
When we will turn left in the galley we will enter into the corridor. There are five bigger cabins - one of them is the workplace for Maeve, the second one for Firouz, the third was previously a cabin for guests but it was turned into the worplace for Bryn, the fourth one is for the captain and there is the next one for guests. At the end of corridor (which lead towards bow) is the big storage room where all crewmembers are sleeping in hammocks (including Sinbad who is sleeping in his quarter only very rarely), Maeve, Bryn and Firouz do not have any bed in ther workplaces. And behind this storage room is a next bigger room for storaging of bigger objects.
My history knowledge is very poor, so I guess that the ship of this proportion did not exist in this period of time, but this division makes sense to me, so I will leave it be.
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Post by manche on Oct 21, 2019 8:50:45 GMT -5
Only one theoretical question. When this alien took the form of Rongar and was able to speak, is there someone who would welcome the opportunity that this process would manage to return the ability of talking to him somehow? I am not sure if I would welcome this option myself, I am only thinking about it.
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Post by manche on Apr 24, 2019 11:07:54 GMT -5
A great video. So beautiful and sad at the same time, memories of Maeve which painful but so precious for Sinbad. One thing is sure - Sinbad never forgets to this great witch.
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Post by manche on Apr 17, 2019 13:25:03 GMT -5
For me, it was very funny watch it as well. It fitted to his character from S1 as he seemed to be a little abstracted during the season a few times. For example there were several times when he almost forgot his sword on the ground after fights, he experienced accidents and falls during the construction of his inventions. But I think that these traits of his dissapeared in S2.
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Post by manche on Apr 16, 2019 13:15:35 GMT -5
I know that it was mentioned in this topic before, but when I read a story today, there was mentioned again Firouz interrupting the romantic moments between Maeve/Sinbad and it is not funny that Firouz is always the crewman who does this in different stories? I simply can not imagine Rongar or Doubar in such a position, but for Firouz it works perfectly.
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Post by manche on Apr 12, 2019 11:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah, hating fictional charactes is something such useless. And I know TV series where fans hated some characters so badly that I could not believe it. Weren't even in the fandom of Sinbad such fanatics during the original broadcasting when Bryn replaced Maeve? I have a feeling that someone mentioned it in a topic, I do not remember details. I knew that it was only a joke. Thank you, dear Kriss. I will find the time to read it.
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Post by manche on Apr 12, 2019 11:48:33 GMT -5
I would not also notice this theory, but I looked accidentally into the episode guide and noticed it. We can find some mistakes in description of different episodes (The Village Vanishes for example) so we can overlook it easily.
Moreover, I seriously doubt that Omar would even know about the revenge of Sinbad, I think that even the rest of the crew did not know precisely what was between this Harun guy and their captain. If Omar would really cover him, if something happened... I am not quite sure, maybe you are right.
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Post by manche on Apr 12, 2019 11:40:05 GMT -5
Oh, I swear that this is only an accident that this woman was mentioned by me in two topics in such a short time - I am not a Deanna-hater or something like this. And you wrote a missing scene for her? I would be interested in reading it, can I find it on fanfiction? I am watching such many worderful stories, I will be glad that I can add next one.
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Post by manche on Apr 12, 2019 6:21:34 GMT -5
She is gonna watch every single event from S2?! Now, I am really worry for her because I already know what she is going to see. Shiraze for example. I am really curious how you gonna "show" it to her but something tells me it is going to be yet again chapter full of emotions. Oh, I am curious how Maeve will react to some events of S2 as well. I remember this seeing pool project where Maeve offered very interesting interpretations of these events (it helped to me accept some S2 things with which I had a problem), this will be certainly interesting as well. I agree that she will see some unpleasant things (agree with Shirez, but for me the worst example is Deanna - she was decribed as an old girlfriend of Sinbad, it could look to her that he still had the interest about this girl when he showed his interest about Maeve in S1). And I hope that we will see her reaction towards the next members of the crew as well (I would be curious of her reaction to Doubar suffering in The Beast of Basra, Rongar ordeal in Bollnah from Ali Rashid or the meeting of Firouz with Velda).
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