The Siren's Song

[manche]

I like this episode very much, one of my favorite from this season.

Probably because of the plot, because quite a long time we do not know who the ghost is and why she tried to kill these men (for example Marouf did not look as a typical bad guy at first), later the crew also. (the scene with Firouz, i suppose that it was the accident, that he was not her target, she did not want to harm anyone from our crew.)

A few nice scenes as the attempts of Firouz and Maeve stop the storm at the beginning, Maeve's usage of magic (she looked very powerful once again) at the end, the whole scene where Firouz was captured by seaweed wraps ("in the name of science, what is it?") and his rescue by Maeve, playing of cards, Doubar and his bad luck on the door for two times, how the crew was staring in amazement at Poseidon emerging from the depths, the ending scene where they saw Eurynome in the sea.

But the mystery and the atmosphere of this episode are the main reasons why i like it very much.

[Doubar]

A good ep indeed! One of the darkest of S1 though, which is also why still I don't watch it as often as I do other eps. But still yeah, the atmosphere is remarkable, and for long you wonder what's really going on.

Maeve's usage of magic was great indeed, and that look that Poseidon gave her at the end still serves for a good mystery. You would have to wonder whether the two of them knew each other, or what other story lies hidden in the Celt's past.

At any rate, Eurynome was awesome, liked her a lot even though she almost killed Firouz who really had nothing to do with what happened to her. >.> Ooh, and that captain - what was his name again - he was so mad and evil in his very own way. Really didn't like him at all, which only means the actor did a pretty fine job portraying him so yeah... a good performance on his side I would say.

[manche]

Sept 23, 2013 15:34:12 GMT -5 Doubar said:

A good ep indeed! One of the darkest of S1 though, which is also why still I don't watch it as often as I do other eps. But still yeah, the atmosphere is remarkable, and for long you wonder what's really going on.

Maeve's usage of magic was great indeed, and that look that Poseidon gave her at the end still serves for a good mystery. You would have to wonder whether the two of them knew each other, or what other story lies hidden in the Celt's past.

At any rate, Eurynome was awesome, liked her a lot even though she almost killed Firouz who really had nothing to do with what happened to her. >.> Ooh, and that captain - what was his name again - he was so mad and evil in his very own way. Really didn't like him at all, which only means the actor did a pretty fine job portraying him so yeah... a good performance on his side I would say.

I must admit that I never searched anything more behind the Poseidon's smile at Maeve at the end, i thought that he simply saw the pretty woman and he simply smiled at her. But interesting thought.

I think the attack was not targeted at Firouz, probably at Fontassel, but Firouz was simply too curious and he was caught, because this spell was not able to recognize him from Fontassel. Or Eurynome thought at first that the crew cooperated with these sailors and she wanted to kill them also, but Maeve or their actions persuaded her, that they are not the wrong people.

The captain was really mad and evil, able to kill everyone for the small piece of gold (i would bet that he would also kill his officers after the finding of the treasure), this actor was good in playing the mad bad guys (his character from the Gift also looked as a madman a little), Tallow was probably the same case, he killed the innocent sailor because of the map, only Marouf looked that he regretted what they did.

It was probable one of the darkest episodes of the first season together with The Trickster and The village vanishes.

The middle part of The Trickster was really dark: the threat of mysterious demons, preparations for the fight, nightmares of all heroes, the contrasts (we heard the merry tune and funny dialog by Firouz and suddenly he was in the middle of the fire and he screamed in pain, Doubar and Maeve expressed the concerns about the safety of the other and the minute after it they wanted kill each other and the rest of the crew was staring in the shock at it), the end was funny again, the whole revelation of Trickster.

The Village Vanishes was quite dark also. People were disappearing mysteriously, a few attempts to break the wall failed, for some time was the whole situation described that everyone who vanished is gone forever, so the disappearances of Dermott and Rongar were shocking for me, but i really believed that are gone forever, because of the style how was situation decribed i did not anticipate that someone who is from the crew really disappears. After that Maeve found the possible solution but it did not look very useful, the whole process was becoming faster and faster and the staying people were less and less during seconds and suddenly was desperate Sinbad alone. And i could not imagine how he will defeat his opponent, I think that the atmosphere of this episode was quite dark also.

[Firouz]

Poseidon could have definitely just been grinning at a beautiful woman, but Maeve's smirk and crossed arms gives a hint that maybe there is something else in her past that caused her and Poseidon to cross paths before. And since we don't really know a whole bunch about it, it's all up to an author's imagination!

[manche]

One question, I do not remember exactly if the immortality of these sailors was caused by the Poseidon's curse (so it was punishment) or it was a dark spell caused by someone else which should give them an advantage in gaining of the trident? Does somebody know?

[Doubar]

Hum, my first instinct was to say they were cursed but now that I think about it I'm not sure anymore. But yes, I think them surviving was the curse because they had wounded the Nymph and thus a worse fate than death was waiting for them. They were walking dead, destined to live through dying when Eurynome came to them. Or at least, that's how I always got it. *shrugs*

On the other hand, it could have been a side-effect of hurting the dolphin (maybe they got in contact with her blood?) and Poseidon sent her to right that wrong. I'm actually truly insecure now... >.>

[Firouz]

I don't recall either or about the curse, but both would probably be adequate reasons why.

[manche]

Am I wrong or this was the only episode which took place only on the board of the ship?

[Kahlan]

On season 1 yes it is.
But on season 2 "The passengers" also takes place on the Nomad, except for the first 5 minutes.

[manche]

The scene where Firouz was captured by the seaweed wraps was very dramatic and I like it, but I thought about it, how far could have he been from Maeve during the attack? Probably not very much, she could probably hear him earlier and go to help him. I checked the scene again and I found two interesting things:

1. There is a moment when Maeve frees Firouz from the seaweed wraps. There is a cut to Fontassel who is listening to the song of the siren in the middle of this scene. When we look closely we can see Maeve struggling with the seaweed wraps in the background which means that Maeve could see Firouz from this place, although not sure how clearly. Did she concentrate on Fontassel too much at first and she did not notice the problems of Firouz?

2. Firouz was standing by the tiller. When Sinbad, Doubar and Rongar went to the below deck because of Tallow, it was seen that a minor crewman is standing by the tiller next to Firouz. This man mysteriously disappeared during the whole scene.

And one more thing. The boys were imprisoned by Fontassel in the same room where Tallow died some time ago, I am right? There was a big mess in the room after his death, but this mess disappeared when the boys were imprisoned there. We do not know how much time passed between these two events, but probably not very much.

[manche]

One interesting thing, this episode was aired in our country as the last in the first season. What do you think if it really was the last episode of the series, would it work for you as the final episode? Before I found that the second season exists, it seemed to me as a good ending of the whole series. The final talk of the crew by the tiller had the feeling of crew sailing together, having good times and new adventures waiting somewhere behind the horizon. It reminds me the end of Hell House a little.

[Rongar]

I have to admit, I haven’t watched this in a long while, but if this had been the end of the season, I could have believed it. I would have been terribly upset, but I could see it.

[manche]

Something else which occured me some time ago...

How it could be that Dermott was the only one on the board when Eurynome killed Maroof? Should not be someone at the tiller at least (if not for another duty)? He should see it or hear his scream at least.

In relation to Maroof, I was feeling sorry for him a little. He seemed to be different than Fontassel and Tallow, not a cold-blooded killer and I had suspicion that he was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time which makes him responsible for the situation for a part (and in his conversation with Sinbad he did not deny his share of guilt), but no necessarily a bad person.

We could say that he did not prevent Fontassel in killing Eurynome but it could happen so quickly that he could not do a thing against it. We have here the sailor who was killed by Tallow because of the map but maybe it was something which were known only Tallow and Fontassel.

His biggest sin probably was leaving of the rest of the crew during the storm which indicates cowardice. He could stay on the board with them (would the other officers care about it?) and try to do something or die with them.