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Post by manche on May 26, 2013 13:31:34 GMT -5
Maybe you have truth but is is better to try something than simply wait for vanishing. We talked about the fact, that she and Doubar are hasty sometimes, in the discussion in Trickster. Maybe her decision was combination of her desire to help and frustration that she can not find any solution. Her brother was gone, one of her closest friends also, the possible solution failed, she wanted to do something. And she felt quilty after that, a lot of people vanished (but all would have vanished in the end), and the next close friend also.
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Post by Doubar on May 26, 2013 13:34:28 GMT -5
Agree, a mixture of all of these reasons is most likely to be what drove her in this moment. Though I guess the loss of Dermott really was her greatest motivator in that.  |
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Post by manche on May 26, 2013 13:46:11 GMT -5
And I think that she would change her intentions if she knows that this only forces Vorgon to suck people faster. But the fact is, that there were not many possibilities for doing something. Vorgon was immortal, they did not even know if he really exists, all attempts to break through the wall failed.
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Post by Firouz on May 26, 2013 21:57:34 GMT -5
Yea, she was feeling a multitude of things...
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Post by Doubar on May 27, 2013 2:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe she would have acted differently had she known the Vorgon would feast on more lives in order to fight her. On the other hand Sinbad told her during her attack but she only stopped when practically nobody but her, Doubar and Sinbad were left. Or at least that's how I remember it. But true enough, who of us would really be able to process that sort of information while we desperately try to safe a town and our friends? |
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Post by manche on May 27, 2013 3:41:00 GMT -5
Yes, she really stopped after vanishing the last group of villagers together with Firouz. Until this moment she still hoped that she manages it, but suddenly she saw cruel truth and the fact that her action only makes the whole process faster. From all people stayed only three. And her action made her weaker, so she also dissapeared.
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Post by manche on May 7, 2014 14:14:12 GMT -5
I must correct my note about one of the most emotional episodes. This was the best emotional episode of whole Tv series. Sinbad's desperation when he lost entire crew. The scene when he finally stood alone in the empty village was really impressive. He had lost all his friends and he was the last obstacle who stood between this monster and the other people who were halfway between life and death. Such big responsibility on his shoulders, i think that it must have been one of his worst experiences. |
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Post by Firouz on May 9, 2014 19:57:49 GMT -5
Definitely, but Sinbad managed to pull off the win and bring those at the half-way point home.
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Post by Doubar on May 10, 2014 3:29:53 GMT -5
I agree with you two. That must've been one of his worst and most straining adventures. And it wasn't only that he was the only one left to fend for those who were hovering between life and death, it was also that he knew the Vorgon would be free to go wherever he wanted if Sinbad lost this fight. Losing this time would mean letting a monster loose on the world and family and friends aside, that's one big responsibility to carry on your shoulders. Really wouldn't have wanted to trade places with him there. But Sinbad wouldn't be Sinbad if wouldn't fight tooth and nail, and if he didn't know a way to outsmart his adversary.  |
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Post by manche on May 10, 2014 6:21:10 GMT -5
Yes, Vorgon could visit so many places in his body (his ship would be definitely a big advantage for his purposes) and would suck all people who he meets. The first people would be probably some poor sailors on the board of Nomad (Vorgon would create an excuse why "Sinbad" returned from the village alone) and after that he could travel to any country which he would wish to visit. There was hardly anything which could harm him and it seemed that his existence is not very well known knowledge among people. They considered him to be an old legend only...
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Post by manche on Jul 18, 2014 11:44:53 GMT -5
One question, maybe it is a mistake in our dubbing, but when Maeve was talking about Vorgon (shortly after the Derrmott’s dissapearance) she mentioned that she noticed a strange creature who was running among the decomposed walls when the crew was passing through the first, "sucked" village. But it was in the full day light, so it could not have been Vorgon and we have not seen anything like this in the mentioned scene. And later Sinbad said that her "small friend" (the rat which she had in this scene) noticed this creature as well when Maeve did not evidently have this rat at this time. Do you know what was in the original? It seems to be a little confusing.
And i really love the moment when all vanished people reappeared. I do not think the famous kiss or the reaction of our boys now, but how Sinbad returned to the wall and all people returned. An impressive moment.
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Post by manche on Jul 15, 2015 11:24:52 GMT -5
And I would ask if somebody wished to see a different crewmember as last remaining person? It made sense to leave Sinbad at the end (he was the captain of the ship, of course) for Vorgon, but I would be quite curious what would Maeve do for example if she was the last remaining person. I am not sure if she would get the idea to use the device of Firouz.
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Post by Kahlan on Jul 25, 2015 13:00:12 GMT -5
No, I think Sinbad was the only one able to save the situation! lol HOWEVER, I would have loved to see Maeve being the last one to remain with Sinbad. I think the separation would have been more "tragic'. |
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Post by manche on Jul 25, 2015 13:09:18 GMT -5
I think that Firouz would probably get an idea to use his own device against Vorgon at least. But I agree that Doubar or Rongar would not get the same idea probably and I have doubts about Maeve as well.
And I do not understand you completely in the second part of your post, what do you mean by the term more tragic separation precisely? Or do you think that Doubar would dissapear before her? You are right, I would be curious to see their scene of farewell, how it would look, if it took the same time as in the case of Doubar (Vorgon was quite nice to suck Doubar so slowly and give our brothers time to say goodbye, was not he?) which was a great and impressive scene.
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Post by Kahlan on Jul 25, 2015 13:22:40 GMT -5
Well I mean, when Maeve disappears, Sinbad doesn't seem as upset as he is when it's Doubar's turn. When Doubar is disappearing, the scene is longer and Doubar has time to say Goodbye, and I think it's a good scene because we feel as sad as Sinbad. (that's a tragic scene for me, lol). But I would have been curious so see what would have happened if it was Maeve instead of Doubar. If she had time to say goodbye, would she have reveal her feelings? How Sinbad would have react? EDIT: I saw your update after I posted my post but yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. |
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