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Post by Doubar on Feb 22, 2014 9:24:51 GMT -5
Awww, manche, thanks so much for the awesome review. I will reply to it as soon as I can!!!!!!!  |
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Post by Doubar on Feb 23, 2014 11:48:51 GMT -5
So, manche, here I am, replying.  First of all: again, thank you soooooo much for the review!!! I'm super happy to know you like this second last chapter (yes, second last! There's a little Epilogue coming!  ) and that you think it makes for a good closure of this fic.  I tried hard to do exactly what you had mentioned - to close the story-arch of The Rise but also create that kind of atmosphere that AoS often ended an ep with: that distinct air of new adventures that were just waiting out there, once they leave the shore. And it makes me happy as a clam to know that obviously I succeeded in this. I am glad you appreciate how Maeve learned that DimDim knew from the very beginning, and that she let the others know, too. That was an element that had not been there in the original draft back from a couple of years ago, but which got added rather spontaneously with Ch19. But I liked it, and it's nice to see that you as the reader like it, too.  Yes, yes I would think that Firouz, too, knew DimDim though not in the same way as the brothers. But I assume he might have gotten to know him when he was still educating Casib. I think we only learned that Firouz and the brothers have known each other for very long, but it was never stated just how they got to know each other and how Firouz was related to the wise mage. But yes, I would think he knew him. Ooooooh, and you really like Chiara? Ah, I'm such a lucky little author! My first OC and people like her!!!!!!!!! Seriously, it means a lot to me that Chiara is received as interesting and likable. It's one thing to be fond of a char when you're their creator but another for the readers. And bearing that in mind, I always am more than just happy when someone tells me they do enjoy her parts! Yup, I figured Sinbad would be quite unsettled by the news. Turok isn't just any odd sorcerer after all. He is powerful and evil, but I think it was one of the main messages of the show that if the crew sticks together they can achieve anything. That's what I go by when writing for AoS and that's what I want Sinbad to believe in, too. Indeed, must've been scary for those sailors nearby. And thanks for saying that, that it reminded you of the end of "Vengeance of Rumina". I didn't quite think of that but it's a very fitting comparison. I just really wanted to have those two be back in game and yes, even if Rumina - unlike her father - realized that this time they had lost the fight that doesn't mean she's lost her will to gain power. She's just gotten a little wiser over the years and learned when to take a step back and rather be safe than sorry. It might even make her an even more dangerous opponent I think. *taps chin* Ooooh, thank you so much, manche!!!!! You have absolutely no idea what that means to me. When I started writing this story I only wrote it for myself. Then I began publishing it for the sake of a friend, never thought I'd get much feedback on it or that too many people would like it. But to know I could take you on a journey, that I told a story that you think was worth reading... it humbles and honours me. Thank you, again and again for sharing your thoughts on it all with me, for encouraging me this way and yeah, for just being such an amazing reader! It's people like you who made me not give up on this story and who make the time I spend with it be worthwhile!!!!  |
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Post by manche on Feb 23, 2014 12:30:36 GMT -5
Yes, I simply love the similar endings in many movies or tv series (when all is not finished, but enough for completing of the story) and your ending was the same case. The family is together and they can face next adventures together in the next years. According the scene in the return of Sinbad, where Firouz greeted Dim Dym quite excitedly, i summed up that he knew him, but i was not sure the extent of this, certainly not so much as the brothers or Maeve. We know that his attitude towards magic is a little doubtful, although i believe that Maeve and Bryn were able to change this attitude a little and he certainly had the respect towards Dim Dym as well. I must say, that i really admire when you create such interesting character in your mind only. I use a lot of characters from Sinbad, i like to give them a role in the story, but the new characters are a little harder nut for me, i used only some new characters in supporting roles and i am not sure if i will create the complete new and important character in my story at all. I will see but i do not plan something similar now. I like this idea, that crew manages everything together so much and it is the old truth that everything is easier for you, when you are not alone in this. Rumina and Turock: Yes, Rumina is definitely more dangerous opponent, she has more experience, she knows her own deficiencies, she realizes when it is time to stay away from something. And one lost battle does not mean the end of everything, it requires only the change of strategy. And the ending was really impressive there. As the author I know myself how important is the support in this issue. And it was pleasure for me to give you some support and enjoy this great story. You are really the talented writer and your work definitely deserves a lot of appreciation. |
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Post by Firouz on Feb 25, 2014 20:02:54 GMT -5
Doubar,
Well, your POV about Maeve not noticing Turok is a valid one; but Maeve did sense something! Perhaps just the last remnants of the Gryffin's Stone exploding against the dark magic? I LOVE how it ended though; like any TV season ending does! Leaving you on the edge of your seat for the next season!
And Chiara, she does deserve to be a young lass! Even a oldest and wisest can be silly every once in a while! It all depends on how she views others viewing her as acting her age since she is the High Priestess.
Oh, and I can't wait to read more!
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Post by Doubar on Feb 26, 2014 14:23:28 GMT -5
Manche & Firouz: Thanks guys, I will answer you as soon as I can. Kriss: Aw, thankees, dear, for the lovely review! I'm happy you enjoyed the chapter and the story itself. And hope you'll like the epilogue, too. ^^ |
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Post by MJ on Feb 26, 2014 14:52:51 GMT -5
OMG I'm so sorry I haven't reviewed yet! I keep meaning to and then something comes up. Mainly because I am supposed to be doing a million different things other than reading fanfic, but I just couldn't resist once I saw Rise was up! It's really lovely and sweet and I loved the end. I will give you a real review sometime next week probably, when things calm down a little again and I can spare the braincells.
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Post by Kriss on Feb 27, 2014 7:50:56 GMT -5
Kriss: Aw, thankees, dear, for the lovely review! I'm happy you enjoyed the chapter and the story itself. And hope you'll like the epilogue, too. ^^ You're very welcome |
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Post by manche on Feb 27, 2014 13:35:42 GMT -5
Doubar, Well, your POV about Maeve not noticing Turok is a valid one; but Maeve did sense something! Perhaps just the last remnants of the Gryffin's Stone exploding against the dark magic? I LOVE how it ended though; like any TV season ending does! Leaving you on the edge of your seat for the next season! I was also thinking quite often, if this "feeling of cold" at the end of season one had a connection with the return of Turock. We can only guess, what screenwriters had in their plan there. |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 1, 2014 14:36:09 GMT -5
Yes, I simply love the similar endings in many movies or tv series (when all is not finished, but enough for completing of the story) and your ending was the same case. The family is together and they can face next adventures together in the next years. I love those endings, too. They leave you with just enough feeling of a closure that you're satisfied but are open enough so that you look forward to more. And I'm super happy and actually rather relieved to know I was able to create such kind of ending. And part of the credit for that does definitely go to you and MJ. The first draft was much more open on Turok's and Rumina's side and now I'm really glad I adjusted that. *hugs just because* As for Firouz and DimDim: yeah, I cannot tell you exactly what makes me think they knew each other beforehand - it might just be that scene you, too, mentioned - but I definitely think likewise. While they would not nearly be as close as the brothers / Maeve and DimDim I do think they've met before. And while it's right that Firouz was especially sceptical about anything magic related, he for sure knew DimDim was wise. There was a reason after all the Calif had him look after his son and I think that DimDim's wisdom is exactly where he and Firouz found common ground. Truth be spoken? I am totally amazed that Chiara turned out to be such a lovely character and that people like her. For the longest time I felt exactly like you do now. I hardly ever used original characters except for really small supportive roles and also I played only canon characters here onboard for the first couple of years. But maybe watching the others here form their characters made me be more confident in trying it out myself - expand on Chiara and give her more space in this story, make her not just be a guide but explore her personality a little, too. It's still so new to me to create characters myself, but if I have learned something over the years then it's that you can do it. There will come the time when you develop the feeling for how a character should be and that's when you just try it out. I am certain that one day you, too, will want to expand on an original character that was smaller first but which you feel you want to explore a little. Well spoken there. Also I believe this to be one of the central messages of AoS so I wanted to encorporate that here, too. Yeah, I would think so, too, that it makes her even more dangerous that she's got an idea of her limits now. I think, Turok's and Rumina's greatest weakness was their hybris. Turok's still suffering from that, but Rumina has certainly learned a lesson or two. Yeah, it's something I have noticed in all my years on FFN. Those who write themselves know just how important and amazing it is to get a little support and thus they're more likely to offer the same to fellow writers whose works they like. And it's brilliant. It means so much to me, and thank you again for those lovely words!!! |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 1, 2014 14:46:57 GMT -5
Firouz: Indeed, she did sense something, but to be honest I always thought she just wanted to warn Sinbad about things becoming dangerous. Later I went with the theory that she sensed evil magic and that the storm wasn't a natural one, but she couldn't discern its origins or else I think she would have been much more distressed. At any rate though, the idea of her having noticed Turok's return is an interesting one! Oh and true that. Chiara certainly deserves to behave her age every once in a while. Am not sure she would really do that though since yes, she's like the highest authority on Aijakar and as such has to act a certain way. So I guess she wouldn't let her guard down completely. But even so she could enjoy herself and be a bit more carefree at the festival. Currently I am contemplating writing a little one-shot about that evening (the epilogue is planned to be about something else). Maybe I'll get around to doing that and then we'd see how she behaves. Thanks for the amazing continued support, dear. It's always a pleasure to discuss about things with you, as your questions often make me be aware of things. *hugs* Kriss:  MJ: No worries there, dear. You tend to uni first, the review can wait. Oh, but I'm really really happy to know you like the chapter and the end. I was so insecure about this one and White Rose because I had such troubles writing them, so reading you guys still like the result is beyond awesome!!!!!!!
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Post by Doubar on Oct 15, 2015 7:31:28 GMT -5
Well, I don't know if anyone still remembers that I was talking about a little Epilogue that's to come for Rise of the Phoenix. Well, after an insanely long wait (seriously, it took me 1.5 years to type these 1,300 words O.o ) here it finally is. The very last chapter of this tale. I hope you do enjoy it even when it is nothing truly special. |
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Post by Kriss on Oct 16, 2015 14:00:18 GMT -5
Tia Kisu, just left you a comment on FF |
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Post by Doubar on Oct 18, 2015 14:06:11 GMT -5
Awww, thank you so much! To you, too, MJ! *gives both her patented Doubar-hug* I'm so happy that you enjoyed this little epilogue. I know it isn't much but it was part of the whole plan right from the start. After all we never saw the Griffin Egg be destroyed, now did we. We just assumed, so... I'm taking my liberties with this. MJ: So glad you like how exasperated Bryn is. I figured, that's just what she would be watching Sinbad and Maeve interact. And the Doubar/Bryn part - to tell the truth that, too, had always been part of the plan although originially I never thought of them becoming a couple. I just wanted her to have that moment with one of her friends and somehow Doubar was the most natural choice. After all, those two'd hung out together quite often during the show. Of course, now though I like to take this as proof that these two are just made to be. Hehe. ^^ Once again, thanks, love!!! Kriss: Sweet heavens, you re-read the whole thing? That's amazing! I sometimes wonder what it must be like to do that - whether now that it's all complete it makes for a good read or not. Personally, I'm a little scared of going back because I think I will just find tons of mistakes or things I would now write differently. xD Anyway. It means a whole lot to me that you think I captured the spirit and the athmosphere of the show, and that Maeve and Sinbad are well portrayed. Seriously, that's all I ever aimed for with this story. So, thank you!!! |
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Post by Doubar on Nov 24, 2015 7:02:14 GMT -5
Good Gods, I feel so ashamed. It's been a month since I received your amazing reviews, manche and Teti and still I haven't replied to them. I have not forgotten about them though which is why it is about time I commented on, and thanked you for them! So, first things first: THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THE AMAZING FEEDBACK, you two. I really am glad you enjoyed this little Epilogue, and that you enjoyed the tale as a whole.
manche : You have no idea how happy it makes me to know you appreciate the usage of Doubar's point of view. To be honest, this epilogue has seen about three different versions and only in the last one did I let Doubar tell of these moments. The first two scripts were with a normal third-person point of view but at some point that always brought me to a dead end. Because while I wanted to show Maeve and Sinbad, I also wanted to have that tiny glimpse into Bryn's perception and it always felt like a forced switch then. With Doubar though it was somewhat easy to have that change of focus and I'm kinda relieved that it worked, too. Awww, you just summed that up perfectly. In fact, this is the entire idea behind "Rise of the Phoenix" - two elements, two souls who become one. :3 Thank you! I'm glad you think so. The funny thing is, during most of this story I merely tried to capture what was there in the show, because the tale was already half-way written before the concept of Doubar and Bryn becoming more than just friends was even introduced to me. Because of that I tried to stick to this kind of chemistry right until the end and considering that in the show these two had such amazing moments and a great chemistry as well, I guess I had it kinda easy. Yay! You like his S1 one looks better, too. Awesome. *hihg fives* Ooh, you're definitely right. It's a lovely thought to imagine the crew going back to all those friendly ports and just having a nice time there. It would make for a great series of short-stories, too, I would think. Now if only we all weren't so busy. X.x Again, thank you so much! This scene was important to me to write, because it will, indeed, affect the future of this storyline (at least, it will if I ever get to write the other tales that belong to what is started here  ). Concerning your question about S2: For the largest part I acknowledge it in this story. What is toned down in my personal AoS World though are Sinbad's ... ah... flirtateous adventures. I don't want to spend too much time on solving that matter so for the largest part there didn't happen too much during S2 that would stand between Maeve and Sinbad. But everything else I think can stay the same. That said, yeah, the adventure from a Gryffin's Tale would have happened but the thing is: these were normal creatures. Wind/Air choosing the body of such on the other hand is anything but that. (I hope that makes sense, if not - do tell me! It sometimes it weird up there in this head of mine. x) Ah, I know I've said it before but I'm happy as a clam that Chiara is so well received. She was just a tool at first, but then I grew to like her so much. While with her traits she's a bit of a Mary Sue I guess, she doesn't stand in the lime light and remains what she is thought to be: a guide and supporter. Thank you, dear Manche. Honestly, thank you!!! Without your amazing support, without everyone here on board I don't think I would have come so far. You all kept me motivated and helped me pull it through. *hugs* P.S.: A tiny question though, just because I'm so terribly curious. Did you remember the shadow from the beginning? And did you already suspect it was Chiara or was it a bit like "oh, right there was this figure. Oh, and that was Chiara already? Cool!" |
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Post by manche on Nov 24, 2015 14:45:32 GMT -5
Thank you for your nice answer, Doubar. My answer will come pretty soon, I hope.
And you are in touch with Teti, I hope that she is alright. I noticed that she was not logged on this page since last Christmas and nobody ever knows if it was not for a serious reason.
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