Little Miss Magic [ep 6]

[Doubar]

@firouz: Sounds like a good theory indeed. Though I, personally, would guess it's more a question of your birth (so to say) which determines whether you're a natural like Serendib and Bryn (we never got to know about Rumina or did we; though she most likely is a natural, too, just like her sister is... though... has interesting idea** ?) or whether you have to learn it all. So maybe, the more powerful the parents and the more the mother uses her magic throughout the pregnancy, the more will magic be a part of the child. Whereas, with only small powers which are not being used frequently (maybe because the owner - like the siblings' mother - did never learn to control them), the mother won't pass much of it on to her kids - it would only be the ability to use magic then. The rest would have to be learned.

Oh, as for the disadvantage thing: well, I wouldn't necessarily say so. The way would be harder, yes, but Caipra did also say that white magic in the end is more powerful than black one. Also: Maeve's magic seems to resemble DimDim's a lot which makes me guess that he's no natural either. I guess it's just like in real life: poeple can have a talent, but if they're not trained well enough or of they don't make use of that talent they will hardly ever master the same. At the same time, when someone who has to start right from the basics, but has the will and patience to learn, they can become one of the best. Rumina's greatest weakness is her conceitedness - she might be content with what she reached in her art, and is confident she'll always outrank the peasant... But, well, pride will always have a fall.
Just my thoughts about this.


** What if only Bryn had this natural talent within herself? It doesn't go all too well with your theory Firouz, but it might explain why Rumina wasn't particularly fond of her younger sister. She after all holds this natural talent that, if developed, could outrange her abilities by far one day; while she had a harder time to learn it all. Just an idea.

[Kriss]

I would tell you my great theory ;D but again... I don't really have a time ;D
*feels inspiration and is writing*

[Firouz]

That's another good reason Doubar! And I could see Rumina using that to hate Bryn as a child!

[Doubar]

Aw, glad that you like the idea, Firouz. Though it would also mean that it was more a question of coincidence (or maybe fate. lol. ;D ) whether someone's a natural or not. Or - when going with the pregnancy thing - one could state that Bri didn't make much use of her magic while carrying Rumina, while later maybe she did (maybe Turok trained her by then ).
In any case: yup, could well imagine it, too, that this would stir quite some hate in Rumina - seeing that her younger sister has access to magic so easily (and thus maybe even got a little more attention from her father).

[Firouz]

(Nods) Yep, that would definately cause daddy's girl to rage against the baby of the family! LOL!

[Doubar]

^^

[manche]

This is not a bad episode, but for me it is the least favourite episode with Rumina.

I really like the character of Serendib.

I like the connection between Maeve and Serendib, how Maeve tried to support her and give her belief in her power. She clearly realized how hard must be for Serendib having similar responsibility on her shoulders and she was trying to help to make it easier. The great scene when they attacked Rumina together.

The beginning scene was quite nice, Doubar and Maeve were singing quite nicely. The Maeve's singing seemed even better to me in our dubbing. And how somebody mentioned, Sinbad should have been more careful and he really got others into trouble. Maybe, the Maeve's singing has the similar effect for him as the singing of sea sirens.

I like the relationship between Serendib and Firouz as well, he was a little shyful when he was dealing with a woman who seemed interesting or attractive to him. And i like his short interaction with Rumina how he reacted to her statement "You can not defeat me." I always thought that is is a little shame that the rest of crew (with the exception of Maeve and Sinbad, of course) had almost no personal interaction with this great villian. Firouz had this moment and his fascination by the fact that scientific observation wins even by the witch in Trickster at least. Doubar and Rongar did not have anything.

Sinbad and his final usage of magic stones, he is simply able to handle with different kinds of things.

Some nice conversation were there among characters, i like the small talk between Sinbad/Firouz about the fact that he is surprised every day, or the conversation of Maeve with Firouz about Serendib and her power.

The plot was not bad, but for me, the interaction among characters is more favorite part of this episode in comparison.

[Bryn]

This was an ok episode to me, I havent watched it in a while though but I would rewatch it. I like the beginning of it, but then if I remember correctly I got confused which led me to turning it off. I love Serendib though I thought she was a sweet girl.

[Doubar]

I for one feel rather impartial about that ep. It's neither one of my favs, nor one of those I don't like.

Serendib was a lovely character and it's a shame she never made a re-appearance. I really loved how shy Firouz was around her and the moment when she and Maeve attacked Rumina together was a great one.
The scene at the beginning was fab as well and I'm glad they used that version and not the uncut one where Maeve and Doubar are half-fighting over how to sing that song correctly.

It's way cute how Sinbad totally forgets about the tiller because of Maeve's singing and I was happy to know that Serendib's step parents did care about her after all.

Considering the general plot line though, this ep indeed wasn't one of the best. Still, I do re-watch it every now and again though not as often as I do other eps.

[manche]

Oh, there really exists such an alternative scene for this beginning? I like this scene between them, the next example of their special bond, it is a nice moment and this alternative script does not sound so lovely.

Yes, Serendib was definitely a lovely character and it would be nice to see her again in the future. Firouz and his relationship towards her were great there.

This episode is quite good, not one of my favourite, but good. But from all episodes which were featuring Rumina, this is the least favourite episode for me.

[Doubar]

Yes, there is an alternative scene indeed.

[Bryn]

I have never seen that alternative scene, never even knew one exists, Thankyou for posting it Doubar. It certainly made me laugh!

[Doubar]

I think it was either Kriss or Kal who originally found that additional scene on YT, so the thanks really have to go to them. But, of course, it was my pleasure to share it again. I remember, when I watched that vid back then I was totally excited because after all these years it was something utterly new.

It certainly made me laugh!

Yay, I'm glad it did! *hugs*

[Firouz]

Loved it then; LOVE it now!
Except, did you all notice that there was NO music whatsoever when Doubar is singing? When Maeve is they are all spellbound, a bit, but my two boys (Firouz and Rongar) are doing the motions, but no sound is coming from the instruments!
LOL

[tzigone]

This normally is a mid-tier ep to me, but I really enjoyed it this time around.

Personal headcanon - Sinbad has no musical talent. Just like the idea of him not good at something (particularly something Doubar can do) and this one is convenient since he seems to be he only one not participating. And I thought it was Firouz whistling at the end.

They need timber; guess Maeve can't conjure anything that big. She did conjure firewood last week.

One thing missing is Sinbad's reaction to winning a person. We get to see the reaction shot when that happens on most shows. It would have been interesting. I'm not sure whether or not it would have given us his perception on slavery or having her around, since he's got to know that game was "lost" on purpose. When we rejoin him, he's just accepted her there like it's normal. He's not reassuring her he won't do anything horrible or will free her or take some place safe. He's not accusing her of being part of the plot. He's just chatting, asking questions.

Now, Serendib. I know it's been discussed before that she's a natural talent v. Maeve's learned skill, but she seems to be something really special/powerful for Rumina to take so much interest. How old do you think she's supposed to be? Sinbad seems very much to classify her as a "non-adult" (at least until she's "grown up a lot" at the end of the ep. Actor ages are no help, even if I knew hers. So 15-18, maybe? How long do you think she's been Rumina's prisoner? She can't remember ever having been given a gift before, so she must have been very young. Time moves strangely in the City of Mist, we know. When we saw, it was moving more slowly than the outside world. But could it move more quickly as well? Explaining how Rumina (who seems quite young to me - mid-twenties at latest) could have put Serendib her as a young child. Do we think that was pre-series-start or after? I mean, do we think all previous spells we've seen from her qualify as "small"?

What do you think of Serendib's keepers? How did they get this job? Were they hired or just "drafted" and forced to go along or die? Why did they lose her to Sinbad - was it an attempt to help her escape Rumina? Or did they have more negative motives?

You know the character bit/conversation between Sinbad and Firouz was a little odd (but I liked it). Firouz has known him for years, but just randomly decides to compliment on his "sense of purpose" today. I liked what Sinbad said. It's just a matter of being willing to try something (actually sort of reminds me of a leadership observation in the miniseries V from the early 80s, now that I think about it, but that's another story). Also it fits in with what I said on another thread - Sinbad isn't a long-term planner. He's very in-the-moment. But that works very well for him. I also like how when the "wind" kicks up, Sinbad grabs Firouz to keep him in place.

I really liked Sinbad's response of "After the thing that took the girl!" - it's so his nature. He's going to try the rescue. But I liked everyone else, too. At first it seems like out-of-characterness because they (heroes, all) are trying to talk him out of a rescue. But they aren't. They're bring forth relevant questions - questions where knowing the answers would greatly improve their odds. I will agree with Doubar, though, that this wasn't one of Sinbad's more detailed plans.

When Rumina gets Serendib, I just adore her "Who told you that?!" in response to Seredib calling her evil. I love offended she sounds. It's just funny to me.

Doubar and Maeve are bit vain, aren't they - both of them primping in the mirror instead of focusing on the action.

And then they know it's Rumina. I love how Sinbad reacts to that. And then Rumina goes on about their kids (by the way, any idea why she thinks a son would be stronger than a daughter?) - really quite creepy. And Sinbad isn't exactly flippancy and light when he says not to be shy about rescuing (and he expects that of them - which really just shows that he knows them because almost anyone who knew them would know that). I still like Doubar's lines about not leaving without his little brother, though.

So, about Sinbad and the stones. I perceive it as Sinbad having some magical ability. I think that was what was indicated by Firouz's words to Maeve later. But Rumina comments on the pebbles - she seems to think it's them or what Serendib did to them rather than Sinbad having magical ability. I can't think he had it all along - Dim-Dim would have trained him, I think. Right now I'm attributing it to his missing-time and braceletness. I'm saying he and the others were imbued with trace amounts of magic when whatever was done was done. My explanation only has to be first-season compliant for me, because I disregard the second season, but if there's any conflict within the first season, please let me know. Also, I'd love to hear other ideas on this.

Lastly, can anyone explain to me why they're keeping the City of Mists?  I always feel like I've missed the explanation.  I get keeping it going long enough for everyone to get out, but why after that?  There's no one but the three there.  It makes more sense to me that those three move somewhere else.