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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 9:22:33 GMT -5
Okay, do the police have "missing persons" lists in your country?
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Post by Sinbad on Jun 14, 2009 9:23:43 GMT -5
I don´t know.  I think they have missing people special units in each state though, but I don´t know for sure. |
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Post by Doubar on Jun 14, 2009 9:33:25 GMT -5
@sinbad: Aye, the SOKOs (Sonderkomission). They deal with the missing people of each area - meaning each bigger police station (or is it one per state?) has its own SOKOs. If they find evidence for the missing ones to have been seen or know there's chance that they can be located in other areas/federal states they contact the police there and work together. At least that's how I know it. @firouz: Lists of missing persons? Well, don't know as well. I mean, they are working on establishing a general list for criminals (or have they already finished that?) but have no idea at all if this also exists for missing people.  And still I think, the biggest problem is that we don't know for sure if she's here in Germany at all or not. |
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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 9:46:25 GMT -5
Okay, German states:  Polish states:  There are not that many, so could we contact the police in each state? |
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Post by Doubar on Jun 14, 2009 9:59:40 GMT -5
Well, according to Kriss the German police already knows. But since none can say for sure whether she is here at all, they cannot start the search or form a SOKO. I think the problem is that there are so many people missing that they cannot do anything without having evidence for them being here. So maybe newpapers, flyers, internet search (e.g. such sites Sinbad and I mentioned), the chainmails would be best. Or a detective as Kriss suggested. But they require money. A lot of money. @kriss: Have you already asked all her friends about the two? Or do you know any of his buddies? Maybe one of those has heard about which area that boyfriend has his dudes in. |
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Post by Sinbad on Jun 14, 2009 10:04:05 GMT -5
I agree.With no one having a clue or hint where she is and there only being a guess that she might be in Germany, I think we wouldn´t get far contacting police all over the country. As I said, I would volunteer as a translator for e-mails if need be maybe to send to the police even that Kriss could send via her e-mail account. But sadly we are sort of looking for a needle in a haystack Therefore, chainmails, flyers etc. would be the best idea. I think we shouldn´t underestimate what effect this can have. I could chain mail some people, too, and have them pass things on. I know a hand full of people in several areas of Germany. |
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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 10:07:31 GMT -5
I don't get it. If they are missing, of course you don't know where they are. That is why they are called "missing." And since she is a minor, she should be a priority. So are the German police going to do nothing. Man, I am glad I am an America. American police at least have a little more compassion and networking.
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Post by Sinbad on Jun 14, 2009 10:15:26 GMT -5
Er... they do have networking, but as Kriss said, there is already a contact to German police and I am sure they are doing all they can. I don´t know how they work in such a case and of course they are doing something or at least they will have told her what to do.
So we can´t do more in that area. What we can do is try to reach as many ordinary people as we can and ask them to keep their eyes open or if they have seen her.
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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 10:18:09 GMT -5
Aye, sorry about my harsh criticism.  |
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Post by Sinbad on Jun 14, 2009 10:23:40 GMT -5
It´s all right  I hope my answer didn´t come across as harsh. I just wish I could help and knew more about stuff like this. |
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Post by Doubar on Jun 14, 2009 10:24:13 GMT -5
Aye. The main focus has to be with the Polish police. They are more likely to find something out. They can ask people who could know Bara ... uh, sorry, forgot the name  ... the boyfriend or trace their way (e.g. if they used train or maybe car via some gas station). The German police can't do much without knowing where to start. They cannot send all police officers they have only to search the whole republic. And here - Kriss - when you read this, know that I do not intend to sound cruel and I really wish I could do more than just sitting here ... but without even the slightest hint the police is powerless here. I'm sure they passed the pics on to the smaller stations so that the officers there know the face and are alarmed should they see her - but asides from that ... no, there's nothing they will/can do. Not without a trace. And, aye, I as well would say that you should not underestimate the public work (chainmails and such). Most people here have internet and PC. Maybe anyone of those sees her anywhere. |
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Post by Doubar on Jun 14, 2009 10:25:20 GMT -5
*shifty eyes* Hum, I'm a bit late with my answer. Anyways. Still it's true I fear. And ... *quotes Nili* I do not want to come across harsh either. @firouz: Just out of curiosity: What would the American police do if a Canadian was missing and they didn't know for sure whether the girl is still in Canada or maybe in the US? |
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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 10:42:06 GMT -5
@firouz: Just out of curiosity: What would the American police do if a Canadian was missing and they didn't know for sure whether the girl is still in Canada or maybe in the US? Good point. But no one can enter the United States without a passport, even Canadians. If found, they probably would be arrested for trespassing. And to answer your other question about the "missing person's" list, the police have a list of people who are reported missing. This gets posted on the newspaper and broadcasted on TV. |
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Post by Sinbad on Jun 14, 2009 10:52:33 GMT -5
@firouz: Just out of curiosity: What would the American police do if a Canadian was missing and they didn't know for sure whether the girl is still in Canada or maybe in the US? Good point. But no one can enter the United States without a passport, even Canadians. If found, they probably would be arrested for trespassing. And that´s where things are difficult in such a case. There are hardly any border crossings left within the EU. Or well, there are, but they are not occupied all the time. |
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Post by firouz on Jun 14, 2009 13:33:19 GMT -5
So that means I can go to the German-Polish border and put one foot on the German side and the other foot on the Polish side?  |
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I hope my answer didn´t come across as harsh.
... the boyfriend or trace their way (e.g. if they used train or maybe car via some gas station). The German police can't do much without knowing where to start. They cannot send all police officers they have only to search the whole republic. And here - Kriss - when you read this, know that I do not intend to sound cruel and I really wish I could do more than just sitting here ... but without even the slightest hint the police is powerless here. I'm sure they passed the pics on to the smaller stations so that the officers there know the face and are alarmed should they see her - but asides from that ... no, there's nothing they will/can do. Not without a trace.