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Post by manche on Apr 19, 2013 15:46:01 GMT -5
This would be the bad situation for Maeve, when she did not have the opportunity to use her spells. She would probably try a careful defense, but without the help she would be defeated, Doubar is stronger. I was surprised that she was able to prevent so long, her own anger at Rumina probably gave her more strength. In the opposite case I think that Doubar would be able to overpower her until the moment, when she returned into the reality. Maeve would win in the fight without magic against Firouz, with Rongar or Sinbad it could be the equal fight. But she had not any chance against Doubar.
The similar situation happened in the second season, do you remember? When was Firouz possessed by a demon.
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Post by Firouz on Apr 19, 2013 18:10:29 GMT -5
I actually, think Doubar hit ROngar's fear of the wind spirits head on.
I think he was afraid of the lack of control. Rongar's very controlled and flows form one form to the other when fighting. Having to fight something he couldn't see, took away one sense when he was already 'lacking' one from the onset (speech).
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Post by Doubar on Apr 19, 2013 18:15:20 GMT -5
Hum, I guess it would be difficult for anyone to face a friend who's under a spell. Because you don't want to hurt them and so you hold back. So unless you're totally skilled in all this extremely cool martial arts stuff where you can immobilize a person in the fraction of a second without seriously harming them, you'd be forced to just try and keep them at bay, all the while attempting to break through to them. But those ponderings aside, aye, I guess without her magic Maeve doesn't stand all too much chance against Doubar. He just is much stronger than her, and her fighting skills - though definitely decent - wouldn't outrank this physical strength. Same with Rongar I think. He might not be that different in size to her, but therefore his fighting skills are no match to her. He'd just keep on avoiding her blows. Firouz though... especially with his S1 skills would be lost. She wouldn't need her magic at all to win against him in battle. And as for Sinbad... uhm... not sure. He's definitely a good fighter, acrobatic, too, but yeah, I agree - I can well picture this to be an equal fight.  Oh, and of course I remember. Was the second ep - "The Return of the Ronin". He was possessed by one of those demons. Great opportunity for Tim to show he could also be mad and dangerous. @firouz: Yay, glad to know my reasoning was decent.  |
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Post by manche on Apr 20, 2013 3:26:21 GMT -5
I think that Doubar would be able to defeat all crewmembers in the fight. Rongar would be able to defeat all members in my opinion, with exception of Doubar, I am not sure about the result of the fight with Sinbad. Sinbad would lose his fight with Doubar, with Maeve or Rongar it could be a fair fight (but it is a hard question with Rongar). A poor Firouz, I think, that the rest of the crew would defeat him in the fight. He was not a bad fighter, but the rest is better in fighting.
The Tim's performance in the Return of Ronin was excellent. I found at this forum one screen from this event and his expression is perfect here.
And the idea the fight between Maeve and Sinbad sounds very interestingly. Do you think that the similar situation could affect their mutual feelings in any way?
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Post by Doubar on Apr 22, 2013 9:14:36 GMT -5
Hum, so in the terms of each fighting the other... yeah, I think Doubar would be pretty well off against most. Firouz would stand no chance (he wouldn't stand a chance against any of the others actually), and Maeve's not that super awesome a fighter as well (not if we rule out magic that is). Sinbad would be in the middle of all, he's a very good fighter and he's agile. But I don't think he'd have much chance against Rongar, and possibly Doubar, too (though a fight between the brothers would actually be interesting, because Sinbad's agility might make up for his lack of strength). Rongar and Doubar however... honestly? I think Rongar would win. He's just too well skilled and too agile. He could avoid Doubar's forceful punches and strike when the first mate is still finishing a move. Oh, but right about Tim's performance. It was great. Not if they'd hallucinate just like Doubar and Maeve did. If anything, I think it would even deepen their feelings because the thought of having almost hurt the other would be a pretty scaring prospect to either of them. However, if one of them wasn't under a spell (and would thus be faced with the other who's just going insane and trying to kill them), or if they both hallucinated an evil version of each other who attacks them, then I think it could shake them pretty badly. It would be the standart horror element of having someone you trusted with your life suddenly turn against you and try to hurt you. >.< |
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Post by manche on May 7, 2013 4:35:15 GMT -5
they both hallucinated an evil version of each other who attacks them, then I think it could shake them pretty badly. What do you exactly mean this evil version? |
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Post by Doubar on May 7, 2013 7:06:26 GMT -5
Just meaning an aggressive, "dark" version who for example claims that they never liked the other and just played along for pity's sake or something along such lines, and who offends the other, putting them down. |
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Post by manche on May 7, 2013 11:38:42 GMT -5
Yes, it is true, they would have a picture of this situation in their heads and their friendship towards this person could become complicated, some fear of him or something similar. It could damage the friendly connection among all members of the crew.
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Post by Firouz on May 25, 2013 21:17:49 GMT -5
On another note, I thought it was pretty clever of Sinbad to realize they were fighting 'mirror' versions of themselves.
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Post by manche on May 26, 2013 4:01:58 GMT -5
It was clever, but I do not understand why the others were thinking that Sinbad became crazy, when they must have seen that his opponent also stopped. Firouz also said something in the style, that it looks that they are fighting with themselves.
But the scene when they were looking at their mirror versions was great, but it was a little shame, that they did not show the mirror versions of all closely (they showed closely only mirror images of Doubar, Rumina and Sinbad, if I remember it correctly).
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Post by Firouz on May 26, 2013 11:27:58 GMT -5
Agreed
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Post by Doubar on May 26, 2013 13:23:30 GMT -5
Now that's true. I also pitied that we didn't get to see the other dark versions.
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Post by manche on Jun 17, 2013 12:12:42 GMT -5
I must admire the quick reactions of the crew when they saw the fight between Maeve and Doubar and their quick action. I know that the situation was very urgent, but a lot of people would have been in such a big shock in the similar situation that would have stared in the disbelief only without any reaction.
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Post by Doubar on Jun 17, 2013 13:07:35 GMT -5
Aw, true that. Though I guess it's different when the ones fighting each other are your dear friends. I guess I, too, would be reluctant if I watched two strangers fight, but if it were my friends I'd instantly intervene as well... or so I think at last (we can never really know unless we've been in such kind of situation after all). >.>
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Post by manche on Jun 17, 2013 13:26:20 GMT -5
It is true, but if i imagined that i would see two good friends fight to the death, i think my first reaction would be only the shock and the disbelief, if i can trust my own eyes. But there it was a little different situation, the rest of the crew also met their worst nightmares, so they probably assumed that there happened something similar. I wonder what they thought during this scene.
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