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Post by Doubar on Jul 18, 2012 5:52:00 GMT -5
it looks like the producers didn't offer them enough supplies nor decorations and they were stuck with few rooms so have no many options and never have constant rooms to certain chara plus they weren't so careful in observing and recording what they had already done  Yeah, that's pretty sad isn't it? But I have the feeling that's how it worked in many of the old shows. Standarts just were different then, and maybe watchers less demanding. Nowadays you got such geeks like us who dare and think about how the Nomad could look like from the inside, and about its construction. I bet none of the producers ever anticipated that. ;D Lol, I guess I don't dare imagine it. ;D |
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Post by manche on Jun 29, 2015 6:40:51 GMT -5
But guys, I made some reaserches and ... *chuckles* And the answer about the rooms' disposition is : there can't be any answer, for they're all the same ! Maeve’s room / The galley In Masked Marauders, Maeve is in her cabin conjuring to talk to DimDim. The guys stand in the doorway. Notice the grid behind them, they are logically opposite to the stairs.  She sleeps in a hammock ! Alright, now look at the decor, the wooden colums, the ‘’windows’’ behind the guys. Now look here in The Siren’s Song, Firouz is working in the galley. Does the room look any familiar ?  This is quite a funny topic. I also realize that the division of cabins below does not make any sense, they are all the same, I was only thinking how we can know that Maeve was supposed to work in her cabin in Masked Marauders, it could be the galley as well. Maybe she and Firouz took their work from their cabins sometimes into the galley, is it not posssible? |
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Post by Doubar on Jun 29, 2015 15:26:00 GMT -5
Hahah, yeah, Fire was a GENIUS to start this topic. It is so much fun to figure this impossible ship out even when it means realising that it doesn't work unless... magic!  As for working in the galley though, yes, we probably can assume that they sometimes worked in that one instead of in their rooms.  |
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Post by MJ on Jun 29, 2015 15:31:45 GMT -5
If you take into account the dimensions of the ship as soon from the outside and compare them to the galley plus the cart of cargo they had at one point (which Sinbad sold to the person trying to rob them)... there really is no physical space for a true cabin. It would make most sense if all their sea-chests were lined up against the wall somewhere and they all hung their hammock where ever it was convenient. However... all these extra rooms keep showing up... So yeah, magic |
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Post by manche on Jun 29, 2015 16:32:29 GMT -5
If you take into account the dimensions of the ship as soon from the outside and compare them to the galley plus the cart of cargo they had at one point (which Sinbad sold to the person trying to rob them)... there really is no physical space for a true cabin. It would make most sense if all their sea-chests were lined up against the wall somewhere and they all hung their hammock where ever it was convenient. However... all these extra rooms keep showing up... So yeah, magic Which episode do you mean right now, MJ? I can not remember right now. And your idea would make sense; I can imagine the whole crew to hang their hammock somewhere in the galley. It would be a small problem for our women (they need some room for their magical equipment) and bigger for Firouz (he needs more room for his inventions and can you imagine the whole crew trying to asleep and Firouz working on his inventions at the same time? It would not end well for our dear scientist.) And these extra rooms... we can always blame the magic of Maeve and Bryn, when all other ideas fail. |
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Post by MJ on Jun 30, 2015 16:03:59 GMT -5
I honestly have no idea what the episodes are called. It was the one where they get sent DimDim's teaching stone, which is the reason they leave behind the cargo as they think they may have found him.
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Post by manche on Jul 1, 2015 6:30:38 GMT -5
I understood you wrongly; I thought that somebody tried to steal a cargo on the board exactly. This scene is the beginning of my favourite episode, The Village vanishes.
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Post by manche on Oct 14, 2018 13:04:12 GMT -5
I noticed something interesting in Passengers, only in terms of showed parts of the below deck. With the guest room and the cabin of Bryn we also see a storage room(?) where is Doubar imprisoned after his rebellion against Sinbad. It is not much furniture there evidently and it is not shown where this room is concretely located. It looks as the same place which was used for the imprisoment of Uruck in Monster.
One more question, when were Doubar, Rongar, Bryn and some crewmen imprisoned in the below deck in A City Under Plague, it was supposed to be in the galley or in a cabin? Anybody remembers?
One more interesting piece of information, I write down all episodes where we can see more from the ship than the board.
The first season.
1. The Return of Sinbad, Part Two - Rongar went into the cabin of Admir (and maybe Casib as well) which is supposed to be located opposite of the stairs in the galley, definitely not the same room from The Isle of Bliss and The Siren's Song. We also do not see any light from the grid there
2. Little Miss Magic - Doubar enters to the mysterious storage room which should be located under the tiller in the galley.
3. The Prince Who Wasn't - We can see the galley there.
4. The Masked Marauders - Sinbad enters into the galley (?) where Maeve is talking with Dym Dim. It does not look as her cabin, it is opposite the stairs (where should be the cabin according The Return of Sinbad, Part Two) and it looks as the separate part of the galley (by big wooden columns) as we do not see any doors in this scene.
5. The Siren's Song - We can see the galley and the guest room which is located right to the stairs. Firouz is working in the separated part of the galley at the beginning.
6. The Isle of Bliss - We can see the guest room which is located right to the stairs.
The second season
1. Ali Rashid and the Thieves - Sinbad enters into galley (?) where boys are sleeping and Bryn comes out of the room for guests. But there is something missing (the windows by the sides). Maybe there really is the corridor behind the galley and at the end is a storage room where they all sleep. And Bryn is in a separate cabin?
2. Monster - Pirates who go to capture Uruck turn left in the galley and they enter into the long corridor where they enter into his cabin which is on the right side of the corridor. Next pirates go straight in the galley and they got into the cabin of Bryn (?) because Bryn screams the warning after which the boys enter from the neighbouring room. After the fight pirates run though the door towards the galley and back to the board evidently.
3. Passengers - We can see the galley and the guest room (Kundalini) on the left side to the stairs. We can see the cabin of Bryn which is right to the stairs (the same room from The Isle of Bliss and The Siren's Song probably). The room where is Doubar imprisoned is left to the stairs, it must be in the corridor which is behind this guest room. It does not work with the previous episode where pirates entered into the corridor which was straight, now is leading to the left. The crewman Strock later hears the daughter of Kundalini, he is in this corridor by the guest room (it looks that he is the one who guards Doubar). And we have the magically tranportated room of Bryn in this episode as well. There is also shown an unknown cabin where are put the bodies of dead people (somewhere in the corridor). And there are some next doors seen as Bryn is checking the corridor and she is attacked by Masari there.
4. A city Under Plague - We can see the galley and the cabin (?) where is the crew imprisoned. It could be the cabin of Bryn according the position.
5. The Empress - We can see the galley.
So, it is all. I will add some photos later, maybe.
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Post by Doubar on Mar 9, 2019 10:31:24 GMT -5
manche: Oooh, yeah, the amazing TARDIS Nomad. I still believe our beloved ship is actually the Time Lord's vessel gone on a little holiday. xD xD xD Fun aside though, you're awesome for listing all those details! And a few years back I would have gone and checked them out for myself right now. Alas, I don't really have the time anymore. But I still love it that people are collecting all the little details that will probably never add up because they likely were never meant to make sense.
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Post by manche on Oct 25, 2019 12:26:56 GMT -5
I was thinking about this problem with dividing of the ship during writing my story, so if someone has the interest this is my idea for the division of the ship.
Mainly there are only two grids on Nomad, one on the bow, the second above the galley. I take that this enchanted grid from Little Miss Magic as a mistake in the episode, as we never saw it there before or later, the same one counts for the full roof in The Isle of Bliss.
When we enter into the galley, there is a cabin for guests right to the stairs. When we go straight in the galley we would get into its separate part where Maeve and Firouz were seen working in these mentioned episodes and there maybe would be a small room for storing of some smaller objects behind this space.
When we will turn left in the galley we will enter into the corridor. There are five bigger cabins - one of them is the workplace for Maeve, the second one for Firouz, the third was previously a cabin for guests but it was turned into the worplace for Bryn, the fourth one is for the captain and there is the next one for guests. At the end of corridor (which lead towards bow) is the big storage room where all crewmembers are sleeping in hammocks (including Sinbad who is sleeping in his quarter only very rarely), Maeve, Bryn and Firouz do not have any bed in ther workplaces. And behind this storage room is a next bigger room for storaging of bigger objects.
My history knowledge is very poor, so I guess that the ship of this proportion did not exist in this period of time, but this division makes sense to me, so I will leave it be.
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Post by Kriss on Oct 26, 2019 11:43:22 GMT -5
Interesting concept I must say.
But why would they need so many cabins for guests instead to use them?
And why would captain did not sleep in his cabin?
No, I think that show is not in line with any historical facts. So the same goes for the ship type as such.
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Post by manche on Oct 26, 2019 12:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks for your interest. I must admit that you have valid points and that my theory has some holes but i will try to explain it.
It seemed impossible to me that all crewmembers would have his their cabin, the ship is not big enough for this. There could be a few rooms which were used for different purposes (storage rooms or something like this). I was thinking that sailors are used to travel in conditions which are connected with the sea but guests could feel a little uncomfortably on the board so the crew would turn these cabins for them which would give the guests the bigger comfort during the voyage. So this is why are these cabins used for guests mainly.
Firouz, Maeve and Bryn have their worplace because they need some room when they want to do something connected with magic or science. They could take the work into the galley or the common room sometimes, but they do not want to bother the other crewmen during the time when they do not have the duty. And Sinbad.... the captain should have his own cabin, but he wishes to be on equal terms with his crew, he does not want any extra advantages for himself from his title of the captain, this is the reason why he sleeps in the common room with the others in my story. He goes into his quarter when he wants to be alone for a moment (thinking about Maeve or something like this).
Ok, those are my reasons for such a division of the quarters. I hope it makes sense a little, although certainly there is room for next valid points.
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Post by Kriss on Oct 26, 2019 13:35:30 GMT -5
Make sense, indeed. Both for the captain and for the guests. I have never really tried to divide the ship into the cabins. For sure not that detailed. I am rather following some "standard frames" let's call it. So there is as many of them as actually needed for the story. |
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Post by manche on Oct 26, 2019 15:15:03 GMT -5
I actually also do not need such exact division in the story, but I remembered the discussion in this post about it when I was writing a passage and I tried to think it through. It was a good fun.
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