My Second character.

[19101989]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to share my idea about my second character with you all.

As you can notice Bryn isn't so used these days and I read that Sean will leave and the captain will look for a new one on the board.

So......................

You know me that I don't like to have male characters 'cause I'm not sure whether I will be able to work on them properly or not.
And I know too that we don't need lots of women on board the Nomad.

So my idea is about Zahra/Dahab, An orphan girl who was left to live for her own. She didn't have any family but her uncle who hardly took care of her. After she reached 18, he wanted to oblige her to marry his son just to guarantee the money her father left for her.

but the girl was ambitious. She loved the sea. Her father was a sailor and she wanted to tour the sea like him but her family's traditions hindered girls from doing the work of men. And she feared that if her uncle knew that she went on board of a ship with men, he will kill her.

So running away from her uncle, she disguised in shape of a man, hiding her face with ….um something…I don't know what you call it. Or may be just wearing like men. And then when Sinbad will choose someone she might stumble across him and introduce herself like a man and then we can see what will happen to her on board the ship of troubles.

That's roughly what I told Nili about and she said that there is no problem about that.

That's my quick draft for her. Any ideas or suggestions will be defiantly so welcomed.

Oh, and the inevitable question is who the actress will be

Thanks in advance

[Sinbad]

As for the actress, I think it should be someone not too feminine so people would believe in the disguise. But right now I can´t think of one.

[19101989]

Well, she wasn't born to disguise on a shape of a man.
what if she is beautiful but at the same time ambitious. her ambition made her disguise. what should she do with her face?
May be she could change her features a little using anything she would try to come up with. Basra is a huge market itself that you can find anything on .

[Guest]

I like it ;D As for the disguise, you could probably make her get a hood, wear a hat or get her hair short. I mean, plus it doesn't have to be too subtle. She doesn't have to look outrightly like a man maybe. In Robin Hood there was Djaq (pronounced like Jack) who was Saracen, and all she had was cropped hair and manish clothes. She looked manly yet she remained feminine in a way. Kiera Knightly in the Princess of Thieves basically chopped her hair up to the soldiers and wore men's clothes to cover her figure, and no one was the wiser.

[19101989]

@thea: Yey! you just described what i meant, dear

and thanks for the two examples ;D may be i should check the two of them ;D

[Doubar]

*just has to stop by for a moment to comment*

The idea indeed is a very intriguing one. However, you should consider that just like Firouz and Rongar your characters are to interact rather often then with each other, but am sure you already decided about this one to be no problem or else you had not asked officially for this one, right?

Anyhow, I like the name as well as the idea. And having a sailor who later turns out to be a woman should be an interesting thing - though with being part of the Nomad crew then, this should not be an all too big problem since they are used to having women around. ^^

As for an actor: Well, honestly enough, I, too think it needn't be a half-man-woman. Some men have rather feminine looks and in fact it could make for some nice scenes when the guys all make fun of that wishy-washy boy who wants to become part of the crew and when he then shows his skills and all fall silent. ;D
My first thought indeed was Keira Nightley here, too. She simply put on some men's clothes in PotC and wore a hat to hide her long hair. But if you simply made your character cut it, the hat isn't needed (and in fact I think constantly wearing a hat would make all of them become suspicious anyway). Uh, and yes as for Pincess of the Thieves...



But if you went for her I think you would have to disguise as a teen since for for a grown man her face indeed is too female.

Huh, and here's Djacq who was mentioned by Thea:


I guess, you will find someone to fit the character eventually.

Only problem I think we should think about for a moment is the question whether Serendib is still to become part of the crew (which was the original plan if I remember right), because if she does, we'd then have 4 women onboard... and didn't we once decide that too many weren't all that cool? Am asking this because on a ship with three women onboard I think Zarah/Dahab would not be able nor wanting to keep up her disguise for all too long unless she's like the character in Pope Joan who eventually was so used to pretending to be male that she even felt more comfortable with keeping up the disguise.

*looks at long post* 'Kay, these are my thoughts about this. Will try and follow the discussion as it goes on.

[19101989]

Jun 26, 2010 4:58:57 GMT -5 Doubar said:

However, you should consider that just like Firouz and Rongar your characters are to interact rather often then with each other, but am sure you already decided about this one to be no problem or else you had not asked officially for this one, right?

What?

No one told me that serendib is planned to be a part of the crew.........

[Sinbad]

It´s nothing that´s been officially planned yet. As far as I remember we were still trying to find ideas for Serendib, one being that she could become Maeve´s apprentice.

[Sinbad]

Jun 26, 2010 5:03:30 GMT -5 @19101989 said:

Jun 26, 2010 4:58:57 GMT -5 Doubar said:

However, you should consider that just like Firouz and Rongar your characters are to interact rather often then with each other, but am sure you already decided about this one to be no problem or else you had not asked officially for this one, right?

What?

I think what Doubar means is the following: just like Firouz / Rongar you will then have two characters on board the Nomad. And in an rpg it is usually best to keep contact between your own characters somewhat limited so it doesn´t take away the suspense. For example, I play two characters, too, but they will not be around each other often because they are at different places.

[19101989]

@sinbad: You mean the contact between Bryn and Zahra becomes limited? they shouldn't talk to each other so much?

[Doubar]

alex: Well, yeah, the idea with Serendib becoming Maeve's apprentice is an old one and was the plan with OldSerendib. That's why I said "the question is whether Serendib is still to become part of the crew" for I don't know whether Nightingale wants to follow that line, too, or whether she prefers to become part of one of the spin-offs. But since becoming Maeve's apprentice would be a more than just logical reason for her to come along, I think we have to consider that one. *waits for Nightingale's opinion first though *

And about the second thing: yup, I was aiming at what Sinbad explained. Thing is, with your two characters being part of the same crew they will be around each other quite often. And that means you either limit the contact those two have in order to keep up the suspense of rp-ing or you go for the opposite which means that you'll have many scenes with yourself. In general players try and avoid that (hence why Nili's 2nd char is part of the spin-off and my 2nd char is no constant part of the play and will never be part of the crew anyway). With Rongar and Firouz it's a bit different since one of the characters cannot speak anyway so it in fact comes in rather handy that Silence plays the best friend of her character, too for this way she can voice out his thoughts more easily.
Well, it's just something you ought to consider when playing a second crew-mate.

[Sinbad]

Yes. It is reasonable because otherwise players tend to lead monologues and in an rpg it is always more interesting to interact with others and not with yourself.

[19101989]

Okay. I don't think she will act a lot with Bryn anyway. i hope.

[Sinbad]

It´s no prob if they interact now and then, I mean, as long as it stays limited. And I think this is not a problem on this board too much anyways. On another board we had the problem that there were groups of players who just play among themselves and direct whole totally independent and irrelevant plotlines based on just the characters of 2 or 3 players, each playing 3 or more characters.
Therefore, sure they are on the same ship they will interact now and then, it´s just a matter of not e.g. opening threads with just the two of them.

[Khei]

I second Doubar's suggestion of Keira Nightley. Her character in the PotC films did the whole disguised as a man/boy thing in the films (at least the third film..) She pulls off the whole girl playing the role of a man thing quite well IMO.