Plot ideas

[Doubar]

Whoa, that's some great idea. Did you have the Bryn-is-Maeve thing from some other site or did I simply miss a post over here? The whole thing sounds so logical...

The only thing is, that if we followed the "Maeve and Bryn are one"-thing it would mean you couldn't take over Bryn 'caus in the end she'd be our beloved Celt and that's been the first character we found a player for. ;P Furthermore I personally don't like the idea of DimDim being killed all too much.
And about bringing Bryn in: well, just like Sinbad already pointed out, it wouldn't make our rpg any easier. In our dicussion about the plot we pretty much came to the conclusion that we all love the bantering Sinbad and Maeve shared ... now, if we added some rivalry between the two girls here, this would for sure change the whole interaction between Sinbad and Maeve as well as between the crew in general....

And about the second suggestion: yeah, have read the story too. It's a simple but effective way of getting Maeve back.

[Sinbad]

The idea certainly offers a lot of room for fanfiction, that´s for sure. on a semi-related note: when I watched "Hell House" for the first time I kept thinking that Mala was indeed Maeve and that she for some reason was no allowed to tell Sinbad it was really her. The way Mala was around him seemed rather affectionate, so I immidiately thought it had to be someone who cared for him a lot. I was proven otherwise, but still

I agree with Doubar. That wouldn´t because of our players, unless we let our Maeve player take on Bryn first (which could easily be arranged with temporary change of display name) and let her change that later, but interesting as this idea is, there is something opting against it, probably the most dominant reason being the whole sisters thing. Would be losing potential again if we ever get a Bryn and want to play that out some time later.

[Sinbad]

Jan 20, 2009 6:52:34 GMT -5 @firouz said:

As you know, it would take a lot of convincing to have Maeve agree. She can be so stubborn. hehehe I prefer starting where Season 2 left off. I would be happy to play Bryn. Maybe she could get into a fight with Maeve over Sinbad. However, I have a few questions. How did Bryn appear on the island where Sinbad is washed ashore when Maeve left? Seems a little too perfect. And if Dimdim took Maeve into his dimension, why couldn't Turok or Rumina just go into the dimension and kill her there?

I would explain these open questions as follows, but that´s just my interpretation:

- according to the producers, Bryn was the only survivor in her village which got destroyed by Rumina, her sister. I do not exactly remember why she survived and there was this awfully weird backstory about the rainbow bracelets being gifts from some aliens in all of that, but that´s the stuff about that

- I guess, since these stories always deal with the whole black magic versus white magic theme, I´d just go for what seems consensus in fantasy stories. White magic, in the end is stronger and if done right, black magic has no way to defeat it. If Dim Dim has strong enough ways to protect Maeve, she would indeed be safe in his dimension.

[Doubar]

Hehe, have modified my post and hoped noone would write something down before I've been able to send it. X)

Anyways.
Aye, it's brilliant stuff for a fiction and would love to see it written down one day, but for our rpg I think, Sinbad's right. It'd be too much a pity to leave out the whole sister-thing.

But thanx for your suggestion, Firouz! And the diary-thing is something that could really prove itself being useful. *scratches chin* By the way, Sinbad - didn't also say something about having a story for Maeve's return in mind?

[Doubar]

Aw, crap. Have been to slow again.

In addition to Sinbad: in some fic I've also read the idea that since Iblis has been a jinn and "free" servant of the dark force, Turok and Rumina don't have any clue just where he sent DimDim to. And DimDim in turn found a way to make this island (or whatever it is) kind of invisble for any living thing. So this would explain just why the two of them never found them.

[Sinbad]

I was just re-reading some of the stuff in this thread and saw that there are so many great ideas here that we could probably play ages to see them all dealt with. Which is great. I would suggest I make a list of things these days and we try to crystalise a plot that is simple enough for now since, as I know from experience, rp-ing tends to become complex and it´s usually easier and more fun to keep things simple. several plot ideas are always good, it means things won´t get boring in a long time and we should keep all of them in mind but one after the other.

Doubar, as for now it´s more or less vague stuff that needs discussing. Let me see if I get them summed up. Complexity rising.

1) Simple version: We could have the plot start off with the crew accidentally making for a village or city or island that Dim Dim uses as his hideout place and Sinbad and Maeve accidentally cross path there, none of them expecting to see the other again at that point.

2) Dim Dim version: Another possibility could be Dim Dim having his hands in all this. He hinted at the fact that she had to learn more before she could return to the crew safely. He could arrange their reunion and it could still be a surprise

3) Rumina version: I just got that idea. Rumina has her pesonal vendetta with Maeve as we all know. Maeve however is out of her reach now. She might know her and Dim Dim´s hideout place but be unable to penetrate it. therefore she could somehow arrange the crew to end up at this place by setting up some sort of trap. Her plans behind the reunion would be to get Maeve back out into the open again, still not fully a master of magic, but away from Dim Dim´s protection.

Just tossing in some stuff here. Meek, I hope Maeve will get on soon.

[Dermott]

I like how this thread is going on. There are plenty of storylines for more than hundred years

Honestly, I’m for the “after season 2 option” too. It’s way more fitting with all the ideas we came up in those 2 pages. I also agree to start elaborating the dark side consequences first, and then to come back to the light humor of season 1.

@firouz
You came up with a lot of good points. It was illogical how in season 2 Bryn joined the crew as if she was fallen from the sky, and they never questioned once about her whereabouts. We surely have to find a reason for this. *going to mumble about the matter*

About your second point, the “romantic pairing”, sorry if I say this, but I must agree with Sinbad and Doubar. In my opinion Sinbad has always treated Bryn like a little sister, there was no passion between them, and what they briefly had was a bit forced.

I think yours is a brilliant plot anyway, and it could be used on another round of the rpg, if we start the story with a different introduction.

(Thanks for the link though, I’m surely going to read it. There are still so many fanfictions out there ^.^, if only I had more time……..)

@doubar
I like how you planned to justify Turok and Rumina’s absence in second season,

@sinbad
About the coming of Maeve

My favourite version is n.3. It’s sounds the most interesting. I like the idea of a Rumina who knows where Maeve and Dim-Dim are but is unable to reach them. I have a small idea on this point:

The spell she used to seal Mave into that dimension was so powerful that backfired against her. In this way she lost all her powers, and this would be a justification for her absence during the second season. But if somebody frees Maeve breaking the seal, she can have her powers back.

Of course this is just an idea. I think we must listen to Rumina’s opinion because it depends on the way she is planning to develop her character.

[Sinbad]

@dermott: I liked version three best too. I think it offers the best possibilities and stuff. Also it would mean to get everyone involved right from the beginning meaning that Rumina could be plotting along all the while. SOmething tells me she´ll like that idea ;D

Gah, I don´t really like the idea of being gone for two days from tomorrow

[Dermott]

Don't worry captain, 2 days will pass in a flash, we'll think about you.

And perhaps, who knows? Rongar may join us in the meanwhile ;D ;D

[Sinbad]

So will I while I spend most of the night on a corridor passing the time reading Inheritance and watching so no girls get into the boys´ rooms and vice versa and also that noone is secretly drinking booze.

That would be great of course ;D

[Rumina]

Hey guys, hold on a second... you can't strip Rumina of her powers, please!
I'm already one against a whole crew, let me keep the magic at least :-p

I think that option #3 is quite good, and I'm already scribbling down a couple of notes about it... (Sinbad you are getting to know me too well :-p ) and about Bryn, taking her out of action can be easy in this way: let's just include her in the whole trap: somehow Rumina can snatch the girl away from the crew, covering the kidnapping with any excuse, and keep the sister locked up somewhere. As soon as we get a Bryn, we'll think how to let her go.

[Doubar]

...which they will do no matter just how long you're sitting out there. *starts to think of her trips in school ... the windows, the "water bottles* ... I mean, not that I ever have taken part in the getting-drunk-stuff but hey, it was so much fun to play some tricks on the boys. And it was even more knowing we had to stay away from any teacher that could see us!!! ;D

But back to the plot. Aye, would also vote for option three. Main reason is the one Sinbad already mentioned: we all will be inn right from the beginning. Plus, it's the most interesting option if you ask me.

@sinbad: Aye, we'll all be thinking of you.
::inner Doubar speaking::
And, only for once, try to stay away from any trouble!
::inner Doubar mode off::


@dermott: thanx for the compliment. But, ahh ... I didn't really explain just why they didn't show up in season 2. Instead I told why Turok and Rumina might not have been able to get to this dimension. But, never mind. ;D

[Doubar]

Ah, since Rumina posted while I've still been writing, here's an adition to my post:

yeah, would be a great idea, Rumina. It's simple and would leave the chance of bringing Bryn back at some later point!

[Rumina]

Oh I forgot... we'll be thinking of you, captain

[Maeve]

OMG!!!You guys have written a novel It took me half an hour to read all your posts...

Ok, here's what I think:

1. I changed my mind and like all of you, I think we should start the rp-g after season 2 because like you said, it happened and we cannot ignore it and we would missing some very interesting material (Mala, the sister-thing with Rumina and Bryn which by the way rules out the Bryn-is-Maeve idea for me, the rainbow bracelets, though I totally agree that the alien explanation is out...)

2. I like the idea of Maeve and Sinbad's reunion being totally unexpected and that Rumina has something to do with it. Like Dermott said, one of Rumina's spell to trap Maeve in Dim-Dim's dimension could have backfired against her, but maybe, instead of havin' lost all her powers, she was just horribly weakened...This way Rumina gets to start the rp-g with relatively enough strength and power...And I love the fact that she could manipulate the crew to do her own bidding. She would trick them into finding Dim-Dim's hideout and get Maeve out in the open...I think this version of Maeve's return has a lot of potential because Rumina is there from the beginning and we can use the sister-thing with Bryn, that is if we find a player for her...

Ok I think that pretty much covers it for now...I'll read your posts again to make sure I haven't left anything out...

Oh and Sinbad, don't worry! Two days away is nothing, trust me...We'll think of you and like Doubar said, don't do anything to get us into trouble sailor! (Why do I feel like I'm writing this down and he's already gone...?)