The Vengeance of Rumina [ep22]

[Rongar]

You're right! I've never seen that..or rather never paid it too much attention beyond 'oh that's a sweet gesture'! It was just so flowing and well put together that I was more focused on the hug and them talking rather than the hand holding!

[Doubar]

Aww, yes, that's so sweet.

And I agree with everything you said, Fire.

[manche]

The great end of the first season. The final battle with Rumina has begun.

Three great villians together, it promised interesting development of the plot, but unfortunately, this plot was not developed more. This was the last episode for Rumina and Turock. They left in the great style.

The relationship between Maeve and Sinbad was great done. Chemistry between them was so natural and it was showed how much their relationship developed during the last year. The scene with the almost kiss was very sweet (I had the taste to kill Firouz for the first time) and the ending scene with Sinbad's promise was very emotional. I have never noticed the Maeve's gesture with the hand, but I found it finally and it was really very gentle. It was a shame, that their relationship was interrupted when it got to the next level.

The beginning scene, where was Doubar kidnapped by Harpy, showed the bond among the crew again.

The scene when Rongar fought with an uppity skeleton, was very funny. It reminded me of Indiana Jones.

And the final scene with living Turock promised interesting things for the second season. Unfortunately were not fulfilled

[Doubar]

Ooooh, this is definitely one of my very favs of the whole show! The ep just was brilliant in almost every single way. Our three villains operating together, Scratch playing his very own game, and Rumina being darker and much more mature than ever before. The Griffon's Egg, Abtor, the reminiscence of the beginning of the show, Maeve and Sinbad's relationship... there were so many awesome elements in this ep, I cannot help but really love it.

It's true, Maeve and Sinbad finally reached a new level here. There was no uneasiness anymore, no shyness. It seemed they had finally come to some sort of understanding and it was such a shame that this was just killed off. Also Maeve herself had developed what with her fireballs being so powerful and her being able to use so many and even conjure this one giant ball that set the whole plain aflame.
Same with Dermott who got to have a vital part in the plan and who more than ever before could prove his worth as a crew member. The whole crew acted as one here, everyone was important, everyone counted. The very moments before the battle were so intense, that really was great acting and directing imo.

Hahaha, as for Firouz interrupting the almost-second-kiss... actually, I just was highly amused about that and still am. I also still love fanstories that include such a scene. He's just the perfect guy to do something like that. xD

Ach, and that final scene. It was so promising with Turok's hand showing up and him crying that he was alive. When I saw that scene I was totally hyper about season two because it promised to be so utterly fascinating what with Turok being back and Sinbad and Maeve having evolved so much. Alas, apart from Scratch none of our villains ever showed up again. :/

[manche]

It was a very strange situation, Turock returned from the death, Rumina tried to kill Maeve in the first episode and after that none of them is mentioned in the rest of the season. In the first episode Dim Dym said that Bryn is the key to victory and nothing happened in this way during the whole season. There was probably changed the script but would have been suitable to explain their absence in any way.

The whole crew was working as a team, it was really great. The great scene, where they prepared for the battle.

The relationship between Maeve and Sinbad, it was described very well in the whole season. The relationship between Sinbad and Bryn was totally different and the change in the character of Sinbad in the second season was not nice. I read the theory that he tries to forget the pain from Maeve's loss in arms of different women. But I had not this feeling, honestly.

[hannibal]

I've just re-watched the episode. Wow, this one of the best! The relationship between Sinbad and Maeve was awesome! I had goosebumps when i saw the "fight" scene. When Sinbad looks at his mans and then, looks at rongar and doubar and the CHARGE scream! Wow!!! So much emotions and powerfull!! You can tell, that Sinbad is thinking, we might loose and die here, but let's make a hell of a fight! Rongar was so awesome too. When they are running towards the skeletons soldiers, he is in front, beside Sinbad, like he was saying to his captain "No way i'm letting you alone in-front. We're going through this together, my friend".

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdvrWvMdtsg
30 minutes 47 seconds mark.


So many storylines at the end of the episode could have been used in season 2.... But i think Ed Naha used them, but the director made him re-write his scenario, because it was too much "disney-like".

GREAT episode!!

[Firouz]

Anyone notice how in the very beginning Maeve is holding the baby when the mother is telling her story.

As a side note: ever notice how Maeve is more powerful she is when she's not thinking about possibly failing, and protecting her friends and other innocents.

Also Rumina, she was uncertain and afraid when Scratch first arrived.
And even he scared her into sitting down.

And how Scratch admitted he has enemies upstairs...hints of Christian or even Arabic religion?

And isn't it kind of creepy how he was lusting after Rumina-and If only I was a few millennia younger....YUCK!

Also, he's grown from just wanting Sinbad's soul to wanting ALL the crews. Maybe he's learned that whilst Sinbad's soul might be powerful, all together their souls are even more so.

Also, how is it that Scratch, Rumina, and Turok all know Dermott and the Egg are coming but none of them do anything about it before it hits and destroys everything??

[Doubar]

Oooh, I love that battle scene, too. It's awesome! And Maeve's gigantic fireball truly rocked!

It's indeed interesting how Maeve is much more powerful in this ep than she was before. Till now I always ascribed it to the fact that about one year had passed and she had trained a lot in the meantime, but it's true - it would just as well be that the reason for her increased powers is that she doesn't have the chance to doubt herself. She wants to protect her friends and the innocent villagers and that's all she focuses on. Plus, her emotions are somewhat taking the better of her, which would also fuel her magic I suppose.

Oh, but loved it, too, how even Rumina was scared of Scratch. It's indeed kinda creepy though how the devil lusted after the witch somewhat. *shudders*

And how Scratch admitted he has enemies upstairs...hints of Christian or even Arabic religion?

That's what I suppose, yes.

Also, how is it that Scratch, Rumina, and Turok all know Dermott and the Egg are coming but none of them do anything about it before it hits and destroys everything??

Lol, yeah! I wondered about that, too. They could have easily shot Dermott or at least attempt bringing him down, but they just stare and wait. xD

[Firouz]

One of those plotholes that wasn't dealt with...I guess that's why its kind of given the label of B-rated, huh?

[manche]

I have another question: how is possible that Scratch was free there, I thought that he was imprisoned by Dim Dym and he needed the power of four elements which were destroyed in Conundrum?

And it was great to see how powerful Maeve could be.

[Firouz]

Didn't the boys destroy them and free him by accident though?

[manche]

But i thought that he was too weak for escaping without their power, it was the reason why he made the trap at the crew and they were destroyed.

[Doubar]

May 26, 2013 11:26:15 GMT -5 Firouz said:

One of those plotholes that wasn't dealt with...I guess that's why its kind of given the label of B-rated, huh?

Lol, that and the crappy monsters that popped up here and there. ;D

On another note though: I agree and wondered about the same. It was indeed stated by Scratch that he needed the four elements to free himself from the spell that kept him bound and by destroying the skulls the crew prevented him from taking them over. It remained a mystery to me though why the cave collapsed. At any rate, my personal guess would be that the collapsing cave might have something to do with his escape. Maybe the elements were also part of the spell and thus by destroying the skulls they accidently set Scratch free (like Rongs said). It could be possible because at the end of the ep we saw this goat, if I remember right.
Or it has something to do with DimDim being trapped. He was the one after all who bound the demon, right? So maybe his power was weakening or the fact that we was trapped in another dimension had the spell wear thin?

[manche]

This sounds as a good reason, Dim Dym was in another realm and his power could be less strong in the progress of time or really the destruction of skulls created some energy, which helped Scratch escape.

One question towards Conundrum, anybody knows, why Maeve was not in this episode almost? Any reason from the side of the actress? Of course, her absence was important for the plot.

[Doubar]

Hum, no, I for one don't know why she wasn't in it. My best guess would be that she wanted that time for her family. But I really don't know for sure.