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Post by 19101989 on Mar 7, 2010 8:19:29 GMT -5
@sarah: I agree! but the conflicts and violence will then transform from "conflict against shared enemy (I.e the colonist) to a fight between the people themselves for possessing authority. lots of innocent and civilians are going to die because of another one-leader decision to wage a war for a reason or another  Again that's what i thought of! the world never learn from WWII. governments can lead whole peoples to fatal wars because of being so stubborn and need to achieve higher ambitions no matter what prices they can pay or souls they can sacrifice |
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Post by Guest on Mar 7, 2010 8:35:54 GMT -5
Governments have been starting wars for centuries. The king of England decided to wage war on the American colonies. The king of France waged was on the king of Spain. Humans never learn. History repeats itself. It is part of human emotion. It is inevitable. We can learn history, but we cannot separate our emotions. And the key emotion is greed. The one in power thinks less about those under him. And if there is an opportunity to take something the one in power wants, he will take it.
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Post by 19101989 on Mar 7, 2010 13:29:31 GMT -5
but the governments you are talking about are somehow not fully democratic governments. now you can talk about democracy, about the right to vote and tell, about the right for free speech. so taking a lonely decision can't be connected to democracy at all. countries which rise the flag of democracy, still hold the blood of dictatorship. taking one decision that can change the destiny of a whole nation in the days of democracy is something odd and i think unforgivable.
did you read Francis fokoyama's book "the end of history" i think that humanity witnessed all the new actions that leaders and their political strategies can achieve, they waged two destructive wars, they opened new nuclear era. they divided the whole world into two camps, entered cold war, entered the age of bipolar system. then reached the era of unipolar system. now humanity got their best and reached the end point. No thing new will happen. they will keep repeating themselves till the end. methods can be changed. new strategies can be put. new mechanisms can enter the political arena and affects it culturally, economically and and. but the results will be the same.
just like many experts predict that the new world system enters a new multipolar system.which its indications began really to appear on horizon especially in economic field.
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Post by Kriss on Mar 7, 2010 15:03:58 GMT -5
Zen's mother died.  Acclaimed stage, screen and television actress, Nan Martin, passed away Thursday morning (March 4) due to complications from emphysema. She was 82.  |
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Post by 19101989 on Mar 7, 2010 15:13:41 GMT -5
Oh No! How is Zen doing now? *wants to console him* |
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Post by Caipra on Mar 7, 2010 15:20:53 GMT -5
Oh no, that's too sad...  *My thoughts go to his family* |
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Post by 19101989 on Mar 7, 2010 15:38:34 GMT -5
" Nan Martin dies at 82; prolific actress
Martin appeared in numerous plays and films and, over a 50-year span, TV shows. She earned honors including a Tony nomination, an L.A. Drama Critics Circle Award and Washington's Helen Hayes Award.
"  full article about her her bio, her works herearticles.latimes.com/2010/mar/05/local/la-me-nan-martin5-2010mar05Oh that's again such a sad news |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 7, 2010 18:11:47 GMT -5
Awww, no. I'm so sorry to hear that. My sincere condolences to Zen and his family. |
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Post by Guest on Mar 8, 2010 0:59:22 GMT -5
Aw, wish Zen and his family well. And *to Zen* she is in peace and will always watch over you.  but the governments you are talking about are somehow not fully democratic governments. now you can talk about democracy, about the right to vote and tell, about the right for free speech. so taking a lonely decision can't be connected to democracy at all. countries which rise the flag of democracy, still hold the blood of dictatorship. taking one decision that can change the destiny of a whole nation in the days of democracy is something odd and i think unforgivable. There is no such thing as a pure democracy. ;D No, I did not read it. But that is exactly what I said. History WILL repeat itself. |
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Post by Guest on Mar 8, 2010 2:35:06 GMT -5
"Among those Bigelow and "The Hurt Locker" beat are ex-husband James Cameron and his sci-fi spectacle "Avatar." Bigelow and Cameron were married from 1989-91. Cameron was seated right behind Bigelow at the Oscars and joined a standing ovation for her, clapping vigorously and saying, "Yes, yes" after she won. " oscars.movies.yahoo.com/news/570-the-hurt-locker-earns-best-picture-academy-award-ap?ncKathryn Bigelow was married to James Cameron.  Iraq holds landmark vote, attacks kill 38 www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE62505A20100308?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%29&utm_content=Google+FeedfetcherSuch a shame the people had to die. The price of freedom.  Sunnis Go to Polls, This Time, to Retain a Voice www.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/world/middleeast/08sunnis.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igIraqis Defy Blasts in Strong Turnout for Pivotal Election www.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/world/middleeast/08iraq.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igwSuicide bombing kills 11 in Pakistan www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6261IX20100307?feedType=RSS&feedName=scienceNews&rpc=69Japan's top web forum an outlet for free speech -- and hate www.independent.co.uk/news/media/japans-top-web-forum-an-outlet-for-free-speech--and-hate-1917890.html"A massive hacker attack from South Korea crippled the site in retaliation for users' online slights against Olympic skater Kim Yu-Na, after she beat Japanese rival Mao Asada to take gold at the Vancouver Winter Games." *shakes head* World War II is over. China central bank chief: Yuan policy to change, but not yet www.marketwatch.com/story/china-central-bank-chief-yuan-policy-to-change-2010-03-07?siteid=rss&rss=1"But Chinese officials also suggested that the yuan's appreciation may not begin anytime soon, particularly with China's trade surplus rapidly shrinking, as its imports rise while its exports remain sluggish." And.........a sign of relief for those in school. ;D Schools' New Math: the Four-Day Week online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704869304575104124088312524.html?mod=igoogle_wsj_gadgv1& |
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Post by 19101989 on Mar 8, 2010 5:49:55 GMT -5
@sarah: I used this book to refer that I agree on your point |
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Post by Guest on Mar 8, 2010 8:40:16 GMT -5
Aye. Okay. ;D |
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Post by Guest on Mar 9, 2010 2:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by Guest on Mar 11, 2010 11:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by Guest on Mar 12, 2010 0:01:24 GMT -5
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So, it will be very hard to do. But a group of Isrealis came up with an agreement with a Palestinian group. Just the governments did not approve it. 
