Hell House

[manche]

I really like the choice of scenes which Sinbad watched in the mirror of Scratch, I was only thinking what these scenes should exactly represent, what do you think? Did it mean that he regretted the losses of these three people the most of all people who he lost during his voyages or that he blamed himself that he was not able to help in these cases or even that he had a certain share of guilt in their fate (for example that he thought something in the style: "If I had killed Rumina together with Turock, Maeve would not have been washed overboard." or "If I had not taken Admir with me to the voyage, Dim Dym would not have been lost somewhere and Mustapha would not have died").

[Doubar]

Oh, I like Scratch's choice as well. He was very clever showing Sinbad these of all memories. While we cannot know what exactly it triggered within him, to me it seemed that he felt guilt over these deaths/fates. I believe, he feels responsible for what happened to DimDim, Mustafa and Maeve - even when this is rather unreasonable. After all it was Rumina and Turok who set the events into motion but captain that he is, I think Sinbad still blames himself for all this. And his anger is born from frustration, pain and this guilt. Or at least, this is my theory.

[manche]

I always like similar moments when it is shown that he cares as a good captain about all his people. For example, I like the scene in the Beast of Dark when he was searching the shipwreck and Doubar had his discussion with Firouz that Sinbad was searching for redemption. He was feeling guilt for their fate only for a reason that he "decided to land here." We know that he was not guilty, but as a good captain, he feels it this way. He had to lose a lot of his men during his journeys (we can look at the second season only, he lost a lot of crewmen there) and in the most of these cases not only that they died, but without chance to rest in peace as well and were left behind somewhere in the territory of an enemy.

[Doubar]

Indeed, and I, too, love those scenes where we see that Sinbad cares about all his men. He is a formidable captain and it's no wonder his men follow him into any kind of danger. At the same time though, his compassion and sense of responsibility is also a burden. Because just like you said - he loses people during battle and adventures and it seems he feels like each of them is (at least partly) his fault. As their leader he decides on what is to be done, where to go, what to do - so if they die following his orders he takes the blame.

[manche]

Greatly said, dear Doubar...

[Doubar]

Thanks.

[manche]

Only a theoretical questions towards this, but how do you think that Sinbad chooses new men into his crew? He visits a port, he goes across the island and he is watching people and thinks who of them could be good for the job on the board, he makes a kind of audition for them later? It looks that he has quite large consumption of men; I do not remember that we would see a minor crewman more than one time.

[Doubar]

Now that is actually one interesting question! Truth be told, I think it's a bit of both: if he really is in need of new men he will hold a kind of audition - let it be known that the Nomad hires sailors, then have a look at the people who want to join and question them, probably test their skills, too.
At the same time though I can also see him regularly take people who come up to him and ask to join. It is stated in the show that the Nomad and Sinbad are very famous so I suspect that in nearly every larger port young sailors seek to become part of this crew.

[MJ]

How many unnamed crew does he actually have? Because that number seems to vary. Of the mains characters Doubar, Sinbad and Rongar are seen on the tiller a lot, or fiddling about with rope (or am I making stuff up?) and Maeve is either magicing or hanging out at the prow, only occasionally grabbing a line. Firouz is only inventing stuff... So every other job on the ship needs to be done by the support crew. I would demand more wages if I saw my colleagues slacking off like that

[Doubar]

LOL! Have I ever told you that I love the way you are pointing out the truth? You're right, apart from fiddling with ropes, holding the tiller and occassionally grabbing a line the core crew doesn't seem to do too much. Poor minor crew members. I do hope that at least Sinbad pays them properly.

[manche]

A good notice, MJ. It is truth that we do not have the opportunity to see minor crewmen during their work on the board very much. If we can even see them, it is usually somewhere outside during an adventure where they usually die or do something off screen. I remember to see two minor crewmen to the tiller during the TV series (in the Return of Sinbad and The Passengers). And the main sixth really does not seem to have too much to do, when we take into the account all jobs which are necessary for the duty on the board.

And I have quite good memory to the names and I could make a list of all minor crewmen which were named in the second season, if you have interest. There were some, almost no names were mentioned in the first season.

[Doubar]

You truly remember those names, Manche? That's amazing! The only name I can recall is Barada... and I think that's only because you used him in your fiction, right? xD

[manche]

No wonder, that you do not remember these names; Barada was really only minor crewman who got a few lines and little room in an episode (I am not sure if Mustapha belongs to them as well, he was introduced as if he should be one of main characters) and was not killed. I can not even explain why I remember these things, it is strange, events and names from movies and TV series stay in my head even if I do not try to remember them, but when I am learning something into school, I must read it again and again and despite this I forgot something from this occasionally.

I used names of different minor crewmen from the second season in my story as well, why I should create new names for them when I remember them from episodes? And I used Barada as well, because I do not think that if he is not one of main characters that he must be a coward who is unable (almost) to fight for his life during an adventure. I really did not like his behaviour during Heart and Soul (with the exception of the end), but it was not his mistake, but the mistake of screenwriters.

[manche]

Jun 30, 2015 15:58:27 GMT -5 Doubar said:

You truly remember those names, Manche? That's amazing! The only name I can recall is Barada... and I think that's only because you used him in your fiction, right? xD

I hope that it does not matter when I really create this mentioned list in the section the show in general later, if someone had the interest to look at it. I know that it is not so much interesting theme...

[Doubar]

Oh, but it could be interesting for the play and for fanfictions, too. After all, it always feels more authentic to use canon crew-members or mention them than invent a great line of OCs.