S2 - ep 17: The Beast of the Dark

[Doubar]

I agree with all you said, Manche! I, too, like this ep a lot - next to Hell House it's even my favourite from this season.

Indeed we finally get to see some other crewmen, and they're not even all redshirts. Most of them actually get to survive and the whole atmosphere of that ep is a somewhat lighter one although there was so much mystery and danger to the plot.

Haha, it's true though - one would wonder what the rest of the Nomad crew were doing while the guys had their adventures, right? xD Well, I guess we could assume that in the bigger cities they went about their own business - have a little landleave and stuff like that. But as for settings like the Trickster and such... no idea. Maybe they were all content staying onboard? xD

And as for Nesthar: hum, the way I understood it he was the actual merchant, having sold goods to a costumer. And he hired the Nomad to ship his wares. In this case the crew would, for once, have not acted as merchants but distributers / delivery men, which is just as likely, considering they also shipped Kundalini's wares in that ep where Sinbad got possessed (can't remember the title right now). So, in this case Nesthar had reason to be angry because as the merchant he'll have to deal with the trouble of a delayed delivery (since it's his responsibility).

Concerning the crew though: oh, I agree. They behaved way off with leaving Bryn behind. No matter how you look at it, they're OOC there. She was their friend after all, they'd travelled with her for almost a year by then... are we really to believe any of them would agree to leave a crewmember behind? O.o But you're probably right, Manche, maybe the same scriptwriter would have also made them leave behind Maeve, I don't know. At any rate, that desicion is not one you'd expect any of them to make.

Last but not least as for the outfits: no, you don't sound like that at all. It's a fact and even though the dress must've been awful to wear, it's just pretty and ranges amongst my favourites from the show. There were so many details to Maeve's costume - poor Bryn in contrast only got this yellowish thingie with a super short skirt. That was kinda unfair. At least Rumi-kins got some amazing dresses, too. Though my personal favourite in her wardrobe is the dress she wore in the Trickster. ^^

[manche]

the rest of Nomad crew:
Yes, we can explain it a similar way in bigger cities (although is interesting if they decided to stay in the streets of Basra instead of the luxurious palace of Omar for example), on the smaller islands they probably stayed on the board and they were waiting for the return of the crew (what would have done in the Village vanishes if nobody returned from the village? one of them would proclaim the new captain? they would organize the searching action ?). But is is only uninteresting detail, rather for fun and their willingness to stay on the board has one important advantage: they do not get into any trouble.

Nesthar:
The explanation that he was the merchant cleared his behavior a lot, i watched it only in English and i did not understand all details i knew about the goods, but i thought that somebody hired him for the protection of his goods, not that Nesthar hired the crew alone. (do you recognize Belkor from the Village Vanishes? He did not miss the opportunity to play the bad guy for the second time.)

Leaving Bryn on the island:
Yes, really a lot of out of the characters, similarly as in The beast of Basra, where the same thing happened all with the exception of Bryn. I do not believe that if somebody from the crew would have decided to stay here that the rest of the crew would simply accept it, they would try to prevent the person in it or somebody would decide to stay with her or something similar. But when the screenwriter wanted to write the similar scene to the script, he would probably do the same thing with anyone from the crew.

Outfits:
I am glad that i do not look as a hog because of this. Maeve is really beautiful in this outfit or when she wore the cloak in some episodes she looked well in it or it was the shame that she never wore the dress which she got by the queen in Still life. My sisters had the fun from her costume, they said that she wears the terrible cloth and i always defended her. In the comparison with it i did not like the Bryn's costume very much she is pretty but the costume is too simple and not very nice.

[Firouz]

Well, about Bryn's dress....she was a last minute add-in, and the costume designer literally had to pull something together real quick.

But it also meshed well with how they were portraying Bryn-someone with no past and not really interesting beyond the bracelet and her magic. They could have given her another outfit later on in the season, but just added little bits and pieces instead.

I bet if season 3 had continued as planned her outfit would have changed.

[manche]

I have one question. I am not sure, i did not understand Nethar at the beginning completely, but he mentioned the word like sketch, i thought at first that he talked about some of his goods, but now i think that this word meant the name of the island where they were heading because of the trade. Anyone has an idea about it?

[Doubar]

No, unfortunately I wouldn't know whether it was a name or another word. But I shall try and find out somewhen soon. I also apologize for not having helped any further with the translation project of yours. Days are a bit busy now but I hope I will soon manage to be more active on here again.

[manche]

It is good Doubar, i realize that you have a lot duties in the present time, i am still the student and i have only two things for work (the english course for practising of speaking two days in the week and the very occasional brigade in the shop) but you have more duties which have the preference, of course. I am trying to do the whole subtitles for the rest of the episodes (i understand more and more and it is useful for practising of my listening skills undoubtedly, the Gryphon's tale i translated almost whole, i am not sure a few sentences only, the similar cases are Minotaur or The Invaders which i am doing now) and the parts where i am not sure i can easily substitute the right text after the correction. So, do not apologize for this, nothing happened and when you will have some time for this and the taste to help me, i will be glad, it does not matter when it will be. Thank you for your interest, you are really great.

[Doubar]

Aw, you're welcome. It really is a pleasure helping you, and the fandom. And I really hope to have more time for that again one day.

[manche]

I really like this episode, it reminds me atmosphere of the season one a little, I only noticed two things after recent watching, one of them is a little funny.

Why nobody from the crew was suspicious of that something is wrong there before the first attack of the creature at the camp? It did not seem strange to them that these two men who were sent to search the surroundings did not return at all? It looked that it was in the middle of the day when those two men were attacked but evidently nobody noticed it and all people went to sleep calmly?

And the second thing is quite funny. I am not completely sure because this crewman was no seen too closely but when the crew was attacked in the forest (after finding the bodies of the men who were searching for wood) one crewman was eaten alive by the creature. He looked very similar in appearance as one of the crewmen who was eaten by the water dragon in the Sacrifice, even his costume was almost identical. I can not be sure because he was not seen too closely in both episodes, but there was a significant similarity. A poor guy, if it is was really him.

[Doubar]

Feb 19, 2015 5:37:54 GMT -5 manche said:

I really like this episode, it reminds me atmosphere of the season one a little

Yay, so I'm not the only one who thinks that - that this ep carries a bit of the S1 spirit.

Why nobody from the crew was suspicious of that something is wrong there before the first attack of the creature at the camp? It did not seem strange to them that these two men who were sent to search the surroundings did not return at all? It looked that it was in the middle of the day when those two men were attacked but evidently nobody noticed it and all people went to sleep calmly?

Hum, you've actually got a point there. They should have noticed that two of their men were still missing.

And the second thing is quite funny. I am not completely sure because this crewman was no seen too closely but when the crew was attacked in the forest (after finding the bodies of the men who were searching for wood) one crewman was eaten alive by the creature. He looked very similar in appearance as one of the crewmen who was eaten by the water dragon in the Sacrifice, even his costume was almost identical. I can not be sure because he was not seen too closely in both episodes, but there was a significant similarity. A poor guy, if it is was really him.

LOL! I didn't notice! But I definitely have to check. xD

[manche]

Feb 20, 2015 17:10:15 GMT -5 Doubar said:

Why nobody from the crew was suspicious of that something is wrong there before the first attack of the creature at the camp? It did not seem strange to them that these two men who were sent to search the surroundings did not return at all? It looked that it was in the middle of the day when those two men were attacked but evidently nobody noticed it and all people went to sleep calmly?

Hum, you've actually got a point there. They should have noticed that two of their men were still missing.

But maybe I am wrong and it was a later part of the day and the crew assumed that the dark caught these two men during their way back and they decided to spend the night somewhere outside and return to the camp the next morning.

[Doubar]

Well, this would at least be a better scenario than nobody caring about their crew mates. >.<

[manche]

Feb 21, 2015 16:37:49 GMT -5 Doubar said:

Well, this would at least be a better scenario than nobody caring about their crew mates. >.<

For this version would testify also the fact that Doubar immediately after the attack realized and commented what must have happened with those two men who were sent out. It could really indicate that crew assumed that they decided to stay outside of the camp over the night only and after appearing of a monster they realized how much wrong they were, but it was too late for their crewmates.

[manche]

It was mentioned that this creature attacks only people who try to leave the island or who try to harm Mutaro in any way. Why do you think that the beast attacked these two men from the Sinbad's crew at the beginning (men who were sent to search the surrounding)? They did not do anything to him, they did not do anything for leaving of the island, so why they were also killed?