Double Trouble

[Maeve]

Me again...

I just felt like sharing the fact that I absolutely love the conversation Maeve has with Caipra in this episode. The whole atmosphere is very emotional and so sad. They talk about magic, Rumina, Dim-Dim, Dermott, her quest...The scene is simply beautiful and I like the fact that for once, Maeve allows her strong composure and iron mask to fall, and you can see how truly vulnerable she is deep down inside.

Which brings me to my new banner quote.
Maeve tells Caipra that she's afraid she might never be good enough, that her heart might not be as strong as she thinks it is.

Their conversation ends with those words but Caipra gives Maeve a very meaningful look, one that totally says Oh come on, now! You have everything you need around you to have a strong heart, especially a certain captain...

Her look says it all I'm telling you!
And Maeve quickly lowers her eyes, as if knowing exactly what Caipra is thinking.

[Rongar]

Wonderful scene! And every word you sais is true!

[Fireland]

I always thought that look meant Caipra knew Maeve was strong enough, but she always tended to doubt herself. But what you say totally makes sense ; after all, I can't recall an episode where Sinbad didn't actually encourage her to cast a spell, even when she felt she couldn't (even in ep 2, when they didn't really get along, he grasped both her arms and told her ''You just do it'' with a very determined look. He always believed in her.

[Kahlan]

Maeve: I really love that scene too. and that's why I love Caipra. Maeve knows that she can trust her and that the old sorceress will listen and have an answer for everything.
Very thouching scene.

My banner quote for Caipra is an excract from this scene too.

[Maeve]

I know! And it's an excellent quote!

[Doubar]

Mar 27, 2012 11:21:51 GMT -5 Kahlan said:

Maeve: I really love that scene too. and that's why I love Caipra. Maeve knows that she can trust her and that the old sorceress will listen and have an answer for everything.
Very thouching scene.

True indeed. That's what I always loved about the Maeve/Caipra relationship as well - and about Caipra for that matter.

[manche]

It was the great episode.

The episodes with Rumina are the best in the whole Tv series. She had the good chemistry with Sinbad and as a negative character always had style and charisma. Only a small number of villians was so dangerous for this crew. Except her, only Scratch (a very powerful devil) and Vorgon (almost nothing can kill him, his only mistake was that he was too impatient).

The plot with Maeve and Caipra was nice. We found something more about our Celt and her internal doubts about the succes of her task. It was confirmed again in The Trickster, when her biggest nightmare was that she will not able to defeat Rumina.

Zen got an opportunity to play something different than the positive character and played it perfectly. His talk towards Omar was great and his encouragement of the crew during the fight was excellent. The expressions of the rest of the crew during Sinbad's speech were great and their attempts to excuse him also.

The scene between Maeve and Rumina (in Sinbad's form) was interesting. Althought why she acted towards Maeve this way, it is not so clear to me.

The scenes between Maeve and Sinbad were great. Especially, their argument during Maeve's spell, the line about the marriage and their shock after their spontaneous embrace and the ending scene of course.

The nice moment was after the disposal of the guards between Doubar and Firouz: "Science!"

Great done episode, with a little fun, and the development of the story between the crew and Rumina.

[manche]

And one question It is true that in this episode played the wife of Tim Progosh?

[Eric/Deamus]

Apr 22, 2013 13:28:05 GMT -5 manche said:

And one question It is true that in this episode played the wife of Tim Progosh?

yeah, Angela Martin is Tim Progosh's wife, she appeared in few episodes, all i'm sure of are 2:

-Double Trouble (S1) at the very first scene of the episode, she is the lady who sold the house to disguised Rumina at Basra city, and both of them met Caipra in their way.
-The Guardians (S2) at the beginning of the episode too, she was the lady who fought the bad guys and protected the baby,, his mother, she died in the battle and asked the crew to take the baby to certain city or village and protect him.

hope it's bit helpful

[Eric/Deamus]

Oh guys, i wish i could/can take part in your conversations and discussion of the different episodes, i always like to do it, but i'm quite busy that i can't even reading what you already found hope i can catch up with all of this when my time allows me

[Doubar]

Oooh, indeed, Double Trouble was an awesome ep. Very amusing. ;D

And right about Rumina - she was a great villain, and easily grew on the viewers. Also she indeed counted to the most dangerous ones to the crew, although I daresay that's because the crew itself was her aim. Same with Scratch. For most other villains the Nomads just represented another obstacle. They did not care to learn about their behaviour and their weaknesses - but Rumina and Scratch did.

Caipra and Maeve - that was great indeed. I was totally astounded when Caipra announced she was in fact DimDim's wife. Really love it how they gave us a little more insight into the master's wife therewith.

Hahaha, and evil Sinbad... I laughed so much at the way he ran through those streets. Captain Jack Sparrow would be proud. ;D

The scene between Maeve and Rumina (in Sindbad's form) was interesting. Althought why she acted towards Maeve this way, it is not so clear to me.

I have absolutely NO idea! xP It wasn't logical at all for Rumina to try seducing Maeve. But I will list it as attempted fanservice to both female and male watchers. *shrugs* >.>

D'aw, but Maeve and Sinbad's argument while the Celt tries to undo the spell: awesome! A classic! One of my very favourite scenes of the two. Especially with Caipra going all "stop acting like a married couple!" and "Now I understand why DimDim always liked those two" on them.

The nice moment was after the disposal of the guard between Doubar and Firouz: "Science!"

Aye, for once they agreed on something. ^^

@teti: Awww, honey, don't be sad! These threads ain't going anywhere. Just come around when your exams are done, and then we can discuss together.

[manche]

Apr 23, 2013 7:28:50 GMT -5 Doubar said:

The scene between Maeve and Rumina (in Sindbad's form) was interesting. Althought why she acted towards Maeve this way, it is not so clear to me.

I have absolutely NO idea! xP It wasn't logical at all for Rumina to try seducing Maeve. But I will list it as attempted fanservice to both female and male watchers. *shrugs* >.>

It could be a new trick of Rumina. She wanted to beguile her for the case that the Omar's guards would find them. A small help would be useful ( a silly explanation is better than none).

Or it was only the play for the Rumina's joy. She probably hoped that Maeve admits some feelings for Sinbad. After this she probably wanted to changed into her true form and killed her with words: "It is nice, but you have never got the opportunity to say it to him."

[Doubar]

Hum, these are actually rather good reasons, given the situation itself was midly ridiculous (the seducing part at least that is). And the second one actually sounds rather Rumina-like.

[manche]

I am glad, that my ideas sounds well. I think that we do not find any better explanation for this situation.

Maybe it was the first episode, when Maeve began to admit herself the feelings for Sinbad directly. She tried to deny them until this time in my opinion. I think that this realisation started earlier by Sinbad, probably after the events from the episode Still life.

[Doubar]

Agreed. I don't think any better explanation would come to mind.

She tried to deny them until this time according my opinion. I think that this realising started earlier by Sinbad, probably after the events from the episode Still life.

Hum, that's interesting. I actually never really watched out for any signs that Maeve might have ceased denying. But you could indeed be right. At any rate, Sinbad realized his own feelings way earlier, that's true.