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Post by 19101989 on Feb 6, 2010 5:33:06 GMT -5
Doubar: awesome idea  . Bryn's smiles gallery ;D |
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Post by Guest on Feb 6, 2010 5:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by Caipra on Feb 6, 2010 5:36:17 GMT -5
Okay, I will open a new thread on the dedication area.  And you're welcome!  |
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Post by Fireland on Mar 13, 2012 20:53:26 GMT -5
At the end of the episode, they seemed to have doing more than just kissing... xD He just showed her the ship ;D ;D ;D My thoughts, exactly. ;D Not. Unfortunately. Honestly, I watched the 6 first episodes of season 2 today and I was shocked at how direct the sexual allusions were. I mean, in season 1, aside from the grateful kisses, there hasn't been many sexual innuendos. The rating in Canada was PG. ANd it remained the same for season2 (according to the rating I see on the back of both my DVDs), however there are quite direct propositions  And I'm not even halfway through the season. Really, I didn't remember all this. I was surprised, but until now there has only been Ali Rashid and the Thieves that I didn't recall watching. I watched season 2 when I was 11 or 12, in english (my mother tongue is french), so I understood the main plot from the action and all, but I never understood the dialogues well. So I was litterally taken aback when I watched ep5 and ep6 and Sinbad gets propositioned . How lame is this, I can write steamy fics, yet a direct allusions in a pseudo-PG serie makes me feel uneasy and blushing  I have to say, until now I don't have a lot of fun watching season 2  There are some funny scenes, but I don't have half as much fun as when I watched season 1. I miss the humor. I miss the cast (the crew look so decorative in the episodes). There is no sparkle whatsoever between the characters. I hope it changes by the end of this season because right now I'm disappointed. If I had watched this season before seeing season 1, I would have never been an AoS fan I think  Not because s2 is bad in itself, just because something charmed me in s1, and what charmed me isn't there in s2 anymore, thus it doesn't make me want to watch the episodes, doesn't bring up any enthusiasm, etc. This Sinbad inspired me what King Henry inspired me in Tudors : indifference, almost disgust. Don't throw rotten tomatoes at me  |
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Post by Rongar on Mar 13, 2012 21:36:13 GMT -5
A lot of us were charmed by Season 1 and then shocked or disappointed in Season 2 when that so-called 'charm' was gone.
Season 2 was made for a different age group, really...
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Post by Fireland on Mar 13, 2012 21:44:22 GMT -5
But the rating didn't change, though. I was definitely expecting s1 to be G and s2 to be PG or more. I guess the same serie can't have 2 different ratings (it wouldn't surprise me), so they put the s2 rating on the s1 DVD as well, even though they're quite different.
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Post by Doubar on Mar 14, 2012 14:00:23 GMT -5
A lot of us were charmed by Season 1 and then shocked or disappointed in Season 2 when that so-called 'charm' was gone. Ditto! And as for the rating: ah, I guess it's more that in recent terms S2 still is G because we actually never *see* anything more than kissing. And if you compare S2 to what you can see on TV nowadays AoS really is suitable for kids still. We see no blood, no graphic scenes... so yeah, I guess this is really where the rating comes from. *shrugs* And concerning the season itself: well, I'm afraid it won't get much better. But there are a few eps in-between that I like. And to me Beast of the Dark (should be ep 17 or something) even has something S1-ish to me (shot on an island with most scenes set during the day, crew men appearing and stuff...). Anyhow, still I agree with you: I guess S2 wouldn't have get me hooked on the series either. |
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Post by Fireland on Mar 14, 2012 14:12:25 GMT -5
Honestly, I fear it's going to kill my muse if I watch the rest of it. Yesterday I was so mad ... I didn't want to keep writing, lol. So I won't go through each and every episode. I'll rather use this thread to ask you for your help, because there are episodes/scenes I'd like to see if you ever remember any that would fit what I'm looking for. - Episode when Bryn/Sinbad kiss ? - Any woman SInbad had a fling with that I really should learn about, for coherence matters (ex.: someone from his past that would have meant more to him, or someone he might have envisionned himself with during s2, other than his usual port flings ? I already know about Dianna who is either a past fling or ex-girlfriend, depends on the interpretation you make out of it). - Firouz has a girlfriend / love interest in City Under Plague, any other cast members meet their past loves ? Bryn would particularly interest me. If you have any scenes or episodes you can recall that tells a bit more about her past, I'd be interested in watching. - Anything related to Rumina, even though she didn't appear in s2 (I think they didn't hire Julianne back, however if the crew talks about her, I'd like to watch it too). That's it for now Thanks for your precious help. About the rating : PG is Parental Guidance Suggested — Some Material May Not be Suitable for Pre-Teenagers. I think it suits the second season well, because it is darker, a bit more violent, and adresses subjects that are not directed to general audiences. |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 14, 2012 14:46:42 GMT -5
Aw, I can understand. And happy to help a bit there. - Episode when Bryn/Sinbad kiss ?Ep number 20: Stalkers The one and only kiss. And devastating for both M/S and B/S fans if you ask me. - Any woman SInbad had a fling with that I really should learn about, for coherence matters Hum, no, the only woman from Sinbad's past would be Diana I think. You might wish to watch "The Gift" though if you haven't already done so. Just because it sheds some more light on Sinbad's and Doubar's past.
- any other cast members meet their past loves ? Nope, none of the crew gets to meet past lovers (the only thing that's hinted at is a former fling that Doubar obviously had with the tavern owner/barmaid in "The Gryphon"). And concerning Bryn: no, the only hints on her past are her yellow flashing eyes and the weird ring she wears and that's obviously never bothered anyone (although it really doesn't fit her looks if you ask me). - Anything related to Rumina Again, nothing, I'm afraid. You should definitely watch "Beast of Basra" though. Very interesting concerning the dynamics of the crew - mainly the brothers. Would be my personal choice of rating as well. Just mentioned the above because of the DVD rating. |
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Post by Fireland on Mar 14, 2012 15:55:15 GMT -5
Thank you so much for your precious help ! I had seen the B/S kissing scene before (the whole episode as well). But since I wanted to address the matter in my next fanfic, I wanted to refresh my mind. And it's a good thing I did, because it did not happen as I recalled, haha. Bryn's kiss was friendly, his was just ... hasty, almost dominant. She looked startled too. I would have imagined someone to kiss Bryn more tenderly, she's such a nice girl. The girl at the end : ??! Okay. Get a room. But yeah, overall I'm startled at how un-akward the situation is (when they're back on the ship). I'll have to think about that, because I want both sorceresses to talk about it About Bryn: it is said in the fandom that she had connections to Rumina and Turok. I recall Scratch made an allusion about her ''pedigree'' in Hell House, but I wondered if there are any other allusions that could relate to her past ? I'm not sure I will be following this storyline (being Rumina's sister or something), unless it was suggested otherwise in S2. |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 14, 2012 18:12:14 GMT -5
You're most welcome. And I must say I had always remembered the kissing scene wrong as well. The mildly traumatized inner child in me remembered it as being all final and funny enough I didn't remember that native girl at all. It's only now that I watched it all again I realize how different their kiss is from the M/S one. And how while the crew were startled yet happy about the M/S kiss here they look really rather uneasy (and it might just be me, but out of the three Doubar looks the most displeased). This said, I think you're right: Sinbad's kiss seems to be somewhat dominant and not sweet at all. But indeed Bryn would deserve more than that. Especially with what happens after Sinbad returns: that's just mean, if not heartless of some sort. I mean, even if he doesn't love Bryn in that way he could have the heart to not smooch the native girl like that right after he kissed the sorceress. And if he does love Bryn then this scene is even worse. Plus I for one think she really looks taken aback and somewhat shattered. That really is no way to treat a friend. Indeed it's interesting though how there doesn't seem to be any tension at all afterwards. In fact Bryn jokes about as if she was just teasing her brother. And being a D/B shipper I cannot help but notice how after the kiss with Sinbad she and Doubar wait at the entrance of the tunnel and Doubar looks briefly to Bryn but instantly shies away when she replies his gaze; how he is the one to console Bryn after Sinbad kind of turns her down; and how at said end they are the ones to tease the captain (together). So, there's really some space for interpretations - of whatever sort a fan would like. In any case though I would think that in this ep it becomes clear that at least for the time being there can't be anything major going on between Bryn and Sinbad. And seeing there is no flirty interaction between them anymore in the remaining two eps of S2 I would assume that there's no tension whatsoever because Bryn realized that there were no serious intentions behind the captain's actions (and maybe that she's only had a crush and wasn't in love per se). But that's just my thoughts about this. Concerning Sinbad's share I totally love Maeve's view on things: Then Bryn gives him a peck on the cheek “For luck” and he smiles, but something inside him breaks at that moment. His thoughts are so infatuated with Maeve, and he misses her so much, and longs for her so much, it’s been almost a year since she’s left, that he surrenders to his biggest weakness, pretending that Bryn can replace Maeve, if only just this once, when he so desperately wishes she were here. And so he grabs the back of her head and kisses her, his heart painfully aching for her to be Maeve. Notice how uneasy the others are with this kiss, as if they know what their captain is trying to do. Then he breaks the kiss “Now I feel lucky” and he grabs the rope. And when Firouz hands him the torch, he looks at the flames, thinking about Maeve, only half realizing that what he just did was wrong, that it was unfair, both to himself and to Bryn. -in the tunnels, all he can think about is Maeve. And as seconds fly by he realizes how much of a mistake he just did by kissing Bryn. And it makes him angry. Angry at himself. And he’s letting his recklessness take over, hissing at an ant “Come and get me…Come and get me…” half wishing it would truly snap at him. -when he makes it out, everyone is smiling with relief, and he smiles at Bryn, softly nodding to her, because even though his heart is painfully constricting because of their kiss, which he stupidly initiated out of longing for Maeve, he can’t be angry with her about it. The only person he can be angry with is himself. And then Tarin comes running and kisses him again, and he’s so messed up inside that he’s unable to do anything but respond to her, once again choosing the easy way out and surrendering to his cowardice. Also, a small part of him is hoping that maybe by kissing the girl back, Bryn will understand that their kiss wasn’t really anything serious. Again, the others are rather uneasy. Firouz is simply baffled by his captain’s behaviour. And as for Bryn: No, these were indeed the only hints towards her past. So if one doesn't take the "behind the scenes" into credit pretty much any background is possible for Bryn, although Scratch's remark does still imply that she must have been involved with dark magic in one way or the other. Or that he's got plans on dragging her to the dark side / stirr mustrust within the crew. ... *caugh, caugh* You mean like this? distandlands.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=club&action=display&thread=339&page=3>_> ... <_< ... ;D |
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Post by Fireland on Mar 14, 2012 18:46:07 GMT -5
Indeed. In Village Vanishes they were stunned because of the intensity and unexpectedness of their kiss, but suspected it would happen someday (they cheer afterwards). While with Bryn, they don't look pleased at all (I didn't notice Doubar's face, but I did notice Firouz's and he didn't seem to think this kiss was a good thing at all). What I would interpret out of this has nothing to do with Maeve, though (but I loved Maeve's interpretation in the Seeing Pool topic). I think they were like *WTF this is not some random chick, it's our friend, our sister, don't treat her like that*. Let alone if Doubar loves her, it would particularly be wrong and mean to kiss her, because Sinbad must know he likes her. Yup, I noticed it too, and I found it to be really cute Something I wonder about. Firouz looked uneasy and displeased when Sinbad kissed Bryn. And when they leave, Doubar pats Bryn's shoulder, and Rongar pats Firouz. Coincidence ? Has something ever happened between the two (getting closer as friends, random flirting ..?) It surprised me when I saw this. I totally agree on that. Again, the others are rather uneasy. Firouz is simply baffled by his captain’s behaviour. I wanted to point out she did notice this too. Wouldn't we expect Doubar to feel the more angry/uneasy of the bunch ? Even if he didn't love Bryn, still it's his brother and he has interferred before. *caugh, caugh* You mean like this? distandlands.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=club&action=display&thread=339&page=3>_> ... <_< ... ;D[/quote] Ooooohhh I will read this for sure. |
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Post by Fireland on Mar 14, 2012 18:51:25 GMT -5
Two more questions. 1) Does Bryn understand Dermott like Maeve did (as a human talking voice), can she have conversations with him ? And does she know he is in fact human ? 2) This is more of a forum question, but is there any ''AoS Villains'' thread existing ? I'd like to start a collective brainstorm |
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Post by Doubar on Mar 14, 2012 19:11:12 GMT -5
Indeed. In Village Vanishes they were stunned because of the intensity and unexpectedness of their kiss, but suspected it would happen someday (they cheer afterwards). While with Bryn, they don't look pleased at all (I didn't notice Doubar's face, but I did notice Firouz's and he didn't seem to think this kiss was a good thing at all). What I would interpret out of this has nothing to do with Maeve, though (but I loved Maeve's interpretation in the Seeing Pool topic). I think they were like *WTF this is not some random chick, it's our friend, our sister, don't treat her like that*. True indeed. You can easily see by all the crew's reaction that neither of them is fond of their captain's actions. Although I personally always had the impression that they were mainly concerned about the effect this would have on the crew and especially the relationship between Bryn and Sinbad (of course) - who after all both are their friends and family of some sort. And Sinbad messing up with Bryn's feelings would make life onboard a whole lot more difficult. Let alone that they have seen a similar and yet totally different scene before and thus can easily tell that this is not going to end in a good way (just my POV). This said, I agree with you: I never interpreted too much M/S-yness in that either, but really like Maeve's idea nevertheless. Not necessarily though. Watching S2 I feel that Bryn did have a crush on Sinbad, and Doubar would never get in his brother's way. Thus, even if he had feelings for her I guess he wouldn't have told anyone. You mean Rongar and Firouz? O.o *sleep deprieved mind speaking* Indeed. It's odd, I have to admit. Because even without him feeling for Bryn we would expect him to be angry about what Sinbad did. However, I guess you have to consider that he could have easily lost him to the ants, and that thus for he biggest part he's just happy his little brother is alive. And if he did feel for Bryn - he in that moment could have realized that Sinbad in fact does not feel for the sorceress like he might have thought the captain would. Thus, though it's a selfish thing to do of course, maybe he was even kinda relieved. He's nothing but human, too, after all. *shrugs* |
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Post by Rongar on Mar 14, 2012 19:14:23 GMT -5
I don't think they understand or have a bond that is like Maeve and Dermott's.
I don't believe it was ever really spoken of either.
But the general concensus is that Bryn and Dermott sense feelinngs and send thoughts and pictures to one another.
In S1, the same thing occurs with Dermott and Maeve, but there is also the physical sending of words with it; IE telepathy.
I'm not sure its the same with Bryn though...and since she is the daughter of an elementalist who communes with flora...her mind just might recieve and send messages as such...?
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. Bryn's smiles gallery ;D
There are some funny scenes, but I don't have half as much fun as when I watched season 1. I miss the humor. I miss the cast (the crew look so decorative in the episodes). There is no sparkle whatsoever between the characters. I hope it changes by the end of this season because right now I'm disappointed. If I had watched this season before seeing season 1, I would have never been an AoS fan I think 
Not because s2 is bad in itself, just because something charmed me in s1, and what charmed me isn't there in s2 anymore, thus it doesn't make me want to watch the episodes, doesn't bring up any enthusiasm, etc. This Sinbad inspired me what King Henry inspired me in Tudors : indifference, almost disgust. Don't throw rotten tomatoes at me 
