Scratch

[Rongar]

And that is one reason why I hate the power of the three elements idea. I mean seriously there are other people who practice white magic and having the three elements who cause an imbalance.

Who said anything about only three people having the powers of elements?? What I meant what with the elements, is that each sorcerer/sorceress has an affiliation with a certain elements.

That's a very predominate part of the priestesshood of Avalon. Through some of the old legends. And since this story is somewhat connected to the KA storyline with Avalon, there's the elemental connection.

And you're right, the three all powerful as the elements are pretty bad cliche, but at the same time balance isn't something to schoff at.

Black magic is easier to learn but less powerful;
White magic is harder to learn and it more powerful;
yet at the same time if someone has more training in either one or the other, they have more endurance in magic than someone with less training.

So...where Rumina and Bryn have been trained since they were old enough to understand what was going on, Maeve has only a few years in comparision. Hence, whereas Maeve might be more powerful in terms of magic, Bryn and Rumina would be able to last longer in a fight as they have the magical endurance to do so. Maeve doesn't have the same "heart" of muscle that the sisters do.

[alex]

Okay, makes sense. Well, I might give your fic a try. However, this is not the thread for your fic. I would think Scratch wants to stick to the idea the black magic is more powerful than white magic. Hm, that would mean there would be more practitioners of white magic than black magic. Unless, Scratch goes with your idea.

Sept 28, 2009 13:29:21 GMT -5 Doubar said:

And here I though there were roughly as many people practising black magic as there were white. Honestly, if black magic really was more powerful and easier to learn: why would anyone one earth still practise white? That'd make no sense ... well, not as long as you award magicians at least the smallest amount of intelligence.

Well if there were just as many practitioners of both white and black magic, then each would have to be equal in power for there to be a balance. If white magic is more powerful than black magic, than there has to be more people that practices black magic to maintain a balance.

[Rongar]

True since it is easier, or some people fall out of the white practices because they are to impatient and being to learn black magic.

[Doubar]

in general: I guess at some point we really should agree on one version 'caus eventually black magic and white will fight each other in this play and we really need to know which rules that fight would follow: it would be pretty senseless for example to fight the dark side if white magic was really that weak as you, Bryn, and Sratch imagine it to be. And the simple saying: the number of practitioners count ... well, no offence, but to my eyes that's the lame excuse. Instead, Rongar's version seems to be the logical one to me. Rumi, Turok and Scratch all are very skilled and have been practising (or well, for Scratch it's even a natural thing I would guess) their magic for ages and even hundrets of years whereas on the good side only DimDim and Caipra have the experience of a lifetime. And Caipra's magic in turn doesn't seem to be the offensive one. So, somehow white has to be able to stand black magic or else this game is being lost long before it even began.

Mala: Exactly my point. And if it were even weaker than black magic who on earth would then still be learning white one? They must be fools then.

[alex]

Well, honestly, I really don't care which is more powerful. If you want to go with Rongar's idea, fine with me.

And I was more thinking in the Star Wars sense. The dark side seems to be more powerful than the forces of light. The Nomad crew is in a way like the Jedi forces. They fight against the dark forces from claiming the world. Remember, Dim-dim said that if Sinbad looses (to Turok), it would be the beginning of the end of the world.

What the forces of light have as an advantage over the dark forces is that they have heart. So the heart, not magic, is the key.

[Sinbad]

*raises finger* But with Star Wars, no side is stronger than the other. There are phases where the dark side has the upper hand and times when the light side is stronger, but generally there is sort of a balance.

[alex]

Sept 29, 2009 7:15:29 GMT -5 Sinbad said:

*raises finger* But with Star Wars, no side is stronger than the other. There are phases where the dark side has the upper hand and times when the light side is stronger, but generally there is sort of a balance.

Well, it seems like the dark side is stronger, because I can't name anywhere where the light was stronger.

[Rongar]

I'll give my response in the plot thread. I think we're over used Scratch's thread. ;D

[Doubar]

Yeah, right. Sorry for spamming, Scratch. xD

[Scratch]

Now that's some debate. Don't worry, you are all pardoned of damnation....... for now