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Post by tzigone on Jan 7, 2024 13:47:12 GMT -5
I really didn't like Turok back. I like Rumina as the big bad of the show - women don't usually get to be that, especially young (looking) women for male heroes (despite that Maeve fixates on Rumina while Sindbad decidedly doesn't, Rumina fixates on Sinbad, so she certainly sees him, rather than Maeve as the important one). And I feel like Turok back would have had (if it hadn't basically turned into a different show) the effect of downgrading her position by having the more powerful, older (and now wiser after being killed once) sorcerer in play. Frankly bringing the actual devil into a deal with her didn't help in that respect, either. Kudos to those who mentioned he was chained up last we saw - that's a missing scene waiting to be written.
While I don't know, I expect if the show had gone on in the way planned, Maeve and Sinbad would have actually made significant forward progress just now. TV loves UST, but thinks it's all over once the couple gets together - I think that's only issue if either the writers don't know how to write a couple in an interesting way or if that's all a show had going for it. And AoS did have more than that, with Dermott to free from a curse and big rainbow-bracelet mystery to solve. Fanfic gives far more opportunity to explore that from writers who think resolved sexual tension and long-term-relationships can be just as interesting.
The thing with removing Dermott's curse is that you likely remove Rumina as a villain. Of course, she was removed anyway, but that was a whole different thing. She was the primary villain in the first season. But I could see her displaced by Scratch or Turok, as stated above, though I'm not fond of it. Lot of (especially non-American) shows I've seen wrap up their main villain in season 1, then introduce a new one in season 2. Of course, in fanfic, you don't have to worry about "keeping the story going" so heroes can defeat all their enemies. For angstier conclusions, I suppose, one could kill off Dermott and keep Rumina around, but that's not tonally consistent with season 1, IMO.
One thing that's interesting is that, even now, Maeve doesn't share the truth of Dermott's nature with Sinbad. She's just not ready to open up with that. I have this sort of headcanon where she told her family (yes, they are alive) what happened, but they all think she went mad from grief over Dermott's death. They love her. They loved Dermott. But they do not believe her, and she realizes she has to save him on her own. So she's understandably hesitant to tell others. Certainly at this point, Sinbad would believe her, though. I do wonder what he actually thinks the story is. I think he realizes Dermott was a human cursed into being a hawk. He knows Dermott was close to Maeve and he can figure out it wasn't a romantic relationship. It's not a huge leap to a brother, but I'm not at all sure he's thought about it, because I'm not sure he cares about figuring out the puzzle. He doesn't need to know. Helping Maeve is the priority and a secondary hope may be that she could trust him enough to share it.
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Post by tzigone on Jan 4, 2024 20:43:29 GMT -5
We don't have any clue how long ago Dermott became a hawk, do we?
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Post by tzigone on Apr 1, 2018 19:34:11 GMT -5
This ending scene between Maeve and Sinbad is one of my favourite from the whole TV series, maybe even the most favourite. So touching, so beautiful and so sad at the same time. The greatest scene between this amazing couple. Even without the opening of the second season it really looks as a goodbye scene for Maeve. I miss her, the old Sinbad and their relationship so much in the second season... I really like that scene, too. And I like Sinbad committing to helping her. And that now we know he knows Dermott is not really a hawk.
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Post by tzigone on Nov 30, 2017 20:16:15 GMT -5
Some of the transcripts are still up here, if anyone wants to save them to their own computer.
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Post by tzigone on Nov 7, 2017 21:56:28 GMT -5
I just like matching songs to characters and relationships. Chime in with your own. The entire crew - Always HereSinbad & Doubar - AgainSinbad & Maeve, starting at the end of first season when he swears to defeat Rumina - Keep Holdin' On
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Post by tzigone on Nov 4, 2017 20:48:24 GMT -5
Bad description, I'd say. In English, Firouz never touched the teaching stone and there was no vision of Dim Dim from what I remember.
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Post by tzigone on Jan 12, 2016 12:06:10 GMT -5
Do you know a TV series which is a good example of great continuity? I mean appropriate references to past events, the return of old characters or they are mentioned sometimes, characters develop throughout the series and such things... Sinbad is not the best example of this phenomenon. I think there a lot of modern shows with character development. Finding ones with overreaching and coherent story arcs is much more difficult, in my opinion. Babylon 5 is unquestionably fantastic for plotarc. I would not pick X-Files, as the mytharc is a complete mess. B5 was an episode 110 series and one writer (the creator) wrote 92 of the episodes. The first four seasons are especially tight and well-done for arc - you have questions and mysteries raised that are answered in later seasons. The fifth season is a little less, because they said the show wasn't going to be renewed, so plotarcs were wrapped up, and then they got renewed for S5. Is sci-fi, space station show. Really good show. I have to watch big blocks of episodes at a time, though; it definitely has episodic plots, but the mytharc subplot is really present in every episode. Disney show "So Weird" is very good for the first two seasons on plot arc (especially season 2). New people in charge in S3 and a corporate decision to change the tone of the show meant arcs were dropped. I can point you to a message board for better-video-quality episodes than you'll like find on Youtube or torrenting for this one. Lot of original music in the show. Mostly supernatural with werewolf, vampire, banshee, etc. Aimed at a 'tween audience, I guess, but much more serious than the fare you see on Disney Channel today. Deals with complicated family dynamics and grief and the love of family and it's all tied up in a huge mystery dealing with evil supernatural entities that you gets hints on throughout the series. Still has a lot of episodic episodes that are directly applicable (but sort are indirectly applicable) to the mytharc. I was also very pleased with attention to detail on props. Two-second shots of news articles had actual text related to the topic being discussed and sometimes even had plot details that wouldn't be revealed until the next season.
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Post by tzigone on Nov 17, 2015 11:35:25 GMT -5
But would Firouz know that about swords? He's a genius, of course, but according to this page the studies establishing the ability of metal to conduct electricity weren't done until centuries later (Benjamin Franklin probably being the most famous example of a experimenter, though is was in proving lighting was electricity, I think). Says the 18th century was the age of discovery for that subject. Haven't seen the episode, though, so maybe metal conducting electricity was mentioned anyway?
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Post by tzigone on Nov 4, 2015 14:20:04 GMT -5
A tactic all too common among tv villains.
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Post by tzigone on Nov 2, 2015 21:07:33 GMT -5
Do not you think that it was quite risky from Sinbad to kill Vincenzo at the end? Where did he take certainty that it reverses the curse? It could sentence all turned people to stay in the form of stone forever. Well, according to Maeve, killing the sorcerer who cast a curse is the fallback way to end the curse. That's her plan with Rumina, too. It seems to an accepted method amongst magic users. I won't say it's without risk, but a good chance of ending the curse by killing the caster is better than no chance at all of ending the curse (as Vincenzo was unwilling, and Rumina would likely also be unwilling to reverse her curse).
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Post by tzigone on May 26, 2015 18:26:43 GMT -5
Oh, definitely. Wasn't Sinbad supposed to go right home and help Dim-Dim with chores? They weren't magic students, of course, but students nonetheless. I say a few months at most. She was only just getting the theories/practical lessons then, and she just improved so dramatically in the year without a teacher, and only access to books. But, of course, we were never told, so we can't know an exact time frame. We almost do know that it was probably less than two years though, because Dim-Dim was adviser to the Caliph and in Baghdad two years ago, and Sinbad (who was "lost" two years before the first episode) thought Dim-Dim was still there and he and Doubar never met Maeve there. Unless you want to go with Dim-Dim teleporting back-and-forth between Baghdad and the Island, I guess. Yes, and again in the non-magical sense. You know, the more I read your post and think about it, the more I think just how much of a teacher Dim-Dim is. Teaching wasn't a rarity that happened by chance, but something he did a lot of, with various students, in both magical and non-magical fashion. True. Of course, we don't know if she kept students like Dim-Dim did. She might just be a sorceress and not a teacher - we have a lot of options there. And, as I've said before, I really like the idea that he and Caipra didn't fall in love and marry until after he was exiled from Baghdad (less than two years previous to series-start), thus explaining why Doubar and Sinbad, who have known him for 20+ years, don't know his wife. And then, he picked up Maeve as a student some time after that. Actually, since both Dim-Dim and Caipra have some ability to see the future (though not all of it), so I've speculated the poor newlyweds had to separate because one of them had a vision that it was important for Dim-Dim to teach Maeve. Of course, this may be completely incompatible with the story you have planned. And that's fine - variety is the spice of fiction, right?
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Post by tzigone on May 21, 2015 6:11:24 GMT -5
Was that in season 2? I don't remember season 2. I don't remember any previous students in season 1 - though Scratch claimed it, of course. Could be interesting to meet others who learned from him.
Certainly seems feasible to me.
Would be a good opportunity to explore Dim-Dim's nature (or, at least how his students perceived his nature). Do they perceive him as someone helping them (Maeve might, with her quest being what it is) or is it a paid job or did they have opportunities with other teachers or whatnot? Lot of ways it could go for OCs. How much loyalty do his other students have, etc.?
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Post by tzigone on May 9, 2015 16:02:38 GMT -5
I thought they were they army raised against Rumina, not in her service? Didn't she say "soldiers of fortune that I did slay"? Of course, if she thought they'd be more effective dead than alive, then she'd totally kill her own army. My only issue with them being there is that Sinbad was unfamiliar with Norsemen, implying they didn't hang out in this area. But then, Firouz knew them, so it does work. Especially if they made their reputation in the area when he was "disappeared". Unlike manche, I think the show should be set no later than very late 8th century, because Maeve doesn't know Vikings, and the Viking age in Ireland started in the early 9th century. But that's all very speculative - they weren't exactly consistent on details, as is detailed extensively in this thread
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Post by tzigone on May 9, 2015 15:55:42 GMT -5
You say Maeve said Scratch has many names; well this could be a way for the show to bring in an eclectic grouping of characters and simply explain them all away as the different ethnic races and how their individual religions and cultures 'molded' God, gods, angels, demons.....ect. When in fact, they are all ONE person/demon/angel but with different looks and personas depending on the culture they are worshipped in. I don't think that's the case. While the Trickster has many names and is several different gods, in this episode, it's explicitly stated all the wind gods gathered in this location, so there are multiple wind gods. Honestly, while I don't think the show has a consistent mythology/direction in regards to the gods and such, it actually makes a sort of sense that the Trickster would be the only one that is multiple gods - he's deliberately deceiving people into thinking he's many different beings, because that's the trick/prank. Double points if he's also tricking other gods...and now I'm thinking of him trying to trick Scratch...that would be fun to me.
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Post by tzigone on Apr 28, 2015 19:41:16 GMT -5
One interesting thing this ep has is Sinbad trying to make the prince feel better about having run from battle. It's a kindness.
Also interesting is that Dermott seems to have a stronger sense for what Xander really is than Maeve does. It's one of those things that makes me wonder if Dermott has more magical potential than Maeve - or at least that it expresses itself in a different way. He's usually quite aware of what's going on magically. Or do you think he just saw something the others didn't? I liked how Maeve said that if Dermott trusts him, she trusts him. Of course, we already knew she had faith in her brother's judgement, but it's nice to see.
Doubar's not wrong about him withholding information, though.
There are some crosses in the background - so I guess there's a Christian population in Arborea.
Interestingly, Xander has an understanding of Dermott, too. Both in understanding what he's trying communicate and in his nature, and his relationship to Maeve. Maeve certainly has tender feelings for the boy. I love when she offers him her hand. And, of course, he just can't take it.
Then the rescue - is it just me, or did the queen really under-react to seeing her (dead) son again?
I really don't get why Firouz is so adamant about not believing in ghosts. He believes in gods and demons easily enough.
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