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Post by Kriss on Apr 6, 2019 6:59:10 GMT -5
"This is my idea" is my fic, yes. Some chapters are already on the FF net. Many still waits for their time to be corrected and posted. It takes place 15 years later and Sinbad faces quite diffetent chalange than usual. The title refers to the song from the "Swan Princess". If someone has a good idea there? Well, lets just say everyone has a different one.
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Post by manche on Apr 6, 2019 8:17:01 GMT -5
Ahum. I should not go off on psychology lectures. They are so good though! But I'll stop. And no, you don't sound whiny when you ask others to read your work. The reason I don't read it is that I don't really like to get invested in stories that aren't complete. I don't like to wait years for the end. The second reason is... from what I remember from reading a few bits years ago, is that you don't use an editor or beta-reader. Which means a lot of mistakes get left in. And I am not patient enough to keep going back on lines trying to discern what you meant. Like, I'm not the perfect example of a fanfic writer by any means, but if I can't find someone to beta-read for me, for the stories I care about (and have time enough for, my Christmas presents have always been too rushed), I read them over time and time again. Not just for basic language mistakes but for pacing, for characterisation. For example: I have a tendency to get too flowery. I like to describe things a TON. But it's super boring to read. Because as writers it is not our job to say everything, but to narrow it down to a compelling narrative. So my suggestion would be: finish you story and get your big red editor's pen out. Fix what needs fixing, and glow with pride on the beauty you unearth! Once you're sure you've written the best thing you can, then I will gladly read it. Which seems like a high bar. But I know you can do it. Of course it is a lot of work, and if you don't want it and just enjoy going on writing as you have been, good for you! It's important to do something creative with your life without striving for excellence. Enjoy the process, not the destination! But then I won't read it because I want to enjoy the process as well. And now I hope I don't seem like a rude know-it-all. I was aiming for supportive and honest. I can write supportive yet honest characters, why can't I hit that tone as well (because I can't control the other person's perception is why, but still)? Thank you for your comment. As I am not a native speaker, I am sure that there are mistakes which I did not catch, I am trying to work on it, also when I started (it will be 6 years ago, is it possible?) I was not so skilled in English. I was thinking about a beta-reader but I do not have any friend who would be so good in English for this. And the professional editor... I never thought that I would publish this story outside some fans websites, so I did not feel the necessity to think about it, I also thought that my English is understandable enough and that I did not miss any serious mistakes. Thank you for your support, you definitely do not sound as the know-it-all. We can even agree on this matter. And if I saw a story where are a lot of mistakes, I would not be probably so keen to read it as well. But in this regards, I would probably have a problem to recognise that the quality of English in a story is worse, unless there were some glaring mistakes. But if it is like this, maybe I should seriously think if I will continue with writing at all... Or with keeping posts in English anywhere... I guess I need a pause.
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Post by MJ on Apr 7, 2019 14:09:35 GMT -5
If someone has a good idea there? Well, lets just say everyone has a different one. Those make the best stories! manche, Your English has improved a lot in these last few years. I think I should explain why I am so bad at reading. And it's not just your stories, it's TiaKisu, Inbid and Tetisheri too. While I am not dyslexic, I have a predisposition for dyslexia. Basically what this means is that I carry the genetic material necesary to develop dyslexia, however, because dyslexia is not a disease but a set of agreed up behaviours, one can be prediposed to dyslexia without ever being a bad enough reader to fulfill that agreed set of specifications. Basically, I read a lot as a child (and as a n adult) and so practiced being a good reader/speller. This means that I am a slow reader but also a predictive reader. Language has a lot of structure to it that makes it easy to guess which word will come next, so if the shape of the word matches the word I think it is close enough I won't actually have to read it. Now you can see how a non-native writer who isn't as familiar with the patterns of the language, or just a person who doesn't edit their work, people leaving out words etc messes me right up. So that means I have to work really hard to understand what's being said. That takes me out of the story and I get really frustrated. Short stories I can generally work through but longer ones I give up real quick. It's just too frustrating for me. So yeah, I'm not dyslexic, just a bad reader who enjoys reading. I need the language to be easy to follow (not the story itself, that's a different thing altogether, just the language). I hope I explained myself a little better this time. Oh and I never meant a professional editor. Just a friend would be fine. Some define an editor as a more in depth beta-reader. And only stop writing if you don't get anything worthwhile out of the act of writing itself! From my own experience: I write so, so much more than I ever show anyone. Just because I enjoy writing. I post it because for some reason I got it into my head that I can write well and that other people want to read it. It's one of the few things I am (un)abashedly arrogant about (until the moment I post, then I go to pieces- the important ones anyway).
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Post by manche on Apr 8, 2019 2:43:00 GMT -5
It was only a momentary reflection, I like writing, I found recently that is helps me to cope with the stress from school. How nice to escape into the world of dreams for a few moments. Thank you for your comment about my English, it was one of very few things in which I thought that I am quite good. I was uncertain if it was not only my imagination that my English is somehow decent. Yes, I think that I misunderstood your previous post. I am sorry for this predisposition, but I am glad you enjoy reading despite this. I also think that the native language plays the important role in writing - you will think what you want to say in your native language and you will try to translate it into English after that. But as every language has a different structure, you can make some inaccuracies for this. So, maybe I have a little Czech version of English. Would you believe that we are similar in this? I also wrote a lot of stories only for myself (two alternative seasons of Prison Break, a few western stories, a few on motifs of The X Files), but I wanted to share this one with others. And for same reasons as you.
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