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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 5:34:49 GMT -5
oooh, I have to get reading those, just need to find some time soon. Ey, if any of you guys haven't seen it but here's a link to the script. its an early draft (but the only one I can find) and a lot of things are pretty different though Dastan and Tamina's relationship remains the same and amusing to read ;D. Btw, i suggest downloading as it is easier to view if you wish to view it. www.docstoc.com/docs/2115489/Prince-Of-Persia-Script-2006 |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 7:55:36 GMT -5
Ey, if any of you guys haven't seen it but here's a link to the script. its an early draft (but the only one I can find) and a lot of things are pretty different though Dastan and Tamina's relationship remains the same and amusing to read ;D. Btw, i suggest downloading as it is easier to view if you wish to view it. www.docstoc.com/docs/2115489/Prince-Of-Persia-Script-2006@thea: Ohhhhh, I have a weakness toward reading the scripts  Thanks soooo much  @kal: Thanks a lot. I'm so glad  and even if they are in a camera-captured quality, your vids are still awesome. I already watched some of them @doubar: Thank you So you liked the sand one? I used it as my wallpaper though i was still insecure about it ;D Awwww, and yours are very pretty and very very warm. I liked Tanmina's the best. her eyes are clear in there. one of the things that makes me so keen on making fanarts for this movie is its very high quality. ;D so enjoyable Btw, might i ask what the things you didn't like in the movie are? @ Thanks a lot, Rongar and thanks sooooooo much for the fics. Wow, the second one got more than 1000 reviewes  I'm so can't wait for reading it and it's long as well. I hope that it won't reuin the movie with any bad ending though. |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 8:02:17 GMT -5
and I couldn't help but making a new one before going to bed yesterday. ;D  |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 8:27:23 GMT -5
Wow, guys, look. A fan made this fanart to be like a cover for a prince of persia fanfic writer called Enchantable, the one who wrote Sadalsuud the fic Rongar posted in here. You know what? If i liked the story i may print it along with the cover to be a written sequence for the movie. This cover is so professional I want to learn making things like this   |
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Post by Doubar on Dec 22, 2010 8:47:00 GMT -5
alex: Yeah, I really do like the sand one! There's absolutely no reason to be insecure about it, honey! And thanx. Am glad to know you like the pics!!! Yeah, working with such high-quality pics really is fun. I soo wish we had such pics about AoS (think I said that already, didn't I xD ). Wow! And your latest pic is gorgeous! Those blendings... the colours! It looks AWESOME!!! Say, might I ask which effects you used with that one?  *does her very best puppy dog eyes* And the fanart which is meant to be the cover for this story... *le gasp* Indeed. It's awesome! So professional! Owwwww... Me, too. Last but not least as for your question: Sure you may, my dear. The one was that I had the feeling they wanted to add suspense at all costs. The first two times they lost the dagger I was truly captivated, being excited and hoping for them to get it back... when that Hassassine got it, I was kinda sure they'd get it back and was looking forward to see this. When "Rongar" went up there to get it I knew he would die there, but at least they had it back... for, like, 5 minutes. It just kinda tired me to have this "oh look, they got the dagger back... ooops, no, gone again"-situation all over again.  It may be just me, but they overdid it there. :-(  Second thing was the kinda made-up ending (though, don't get me wrong, I love that is has such a happy happy ending and that everyone was alive again and all this *is a sucker for happy endings after all ;D * , still...). Ya know, I found it to be somewhat odd that the whole movie was about Tamina and Dastan trying to make sure the dagger doesn't go to the wrong poeple... but at the end, when it despite their attempts does, instead of the end of the world... we just see Dastan hit the crystal and whooops... the world is saved. Maybe Tamina's sacrifice was the key but if it was for this reason, then it didn't come across well. To be honest, from the moment on that the uncle had the dagger, I would have expected to see the world's end, but that Tamina's (and maybe also Dastan's) sacrifice, once again, placates the Gods. But this all too simple solution? Simply click the ruby and saved they all are (let alone that he did end up at exactly that point of time where it all started ... though he really could've ended up anywhere). It just seemed like the easy way out to me. I just couldn't help but feel a little taken aback by these two things. However, the movie still gets a "like" on my personal movie list. ;D And after all it always depends on the viewer whether they feel things like the mentioned ones go well with the flow or not. I bet there are enough movies which I love and where others would say "owww, that was not good". Hey, hehe, I love PoC At world's end... and most say it was the lamest of the three and that they just overdid it there. So, well, it's all POV in the end. 
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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 9:59:24 GMT -5
Second thing was the kinda made-up ending (though, don't get me wrong, I love that is has such a happy happy ending and that everyone was alive again and all this *is a sucker for happy endings after all ;D * , still...). Ya know, I found it to be somewhat odd that the whole movie was about Tamina and Dastan trying to make sure the dagger doesn't go to the wrong poeple... but at the end, when it despite their attempts does, instead of the end of the world... we just see Dastan hit the crystal and whooops... the world is saved. Maybe Tamina's sacrifice was the key but if it was for this reason, then it didn't come across well. To be honest, from the moment on that the uncle had the dagger, I would have expected to see the world's end, but that Tamina's (and maybe also Dastan's) sacrifice, once again, placates the Gods. But this all too simple solution? Simply click the ruby and saved they all are (let alone that he did end up at exactly that point of time where it all started ... though he really could've ended up anywhere). It just seemed like the easy way out to me. That was a bit of a peeve for me to. Its just like BAM happy ending for all. I think you're right about the gods. *prepares to go into a bit of history into the history of the dagger or just a bunch of babble* I think if I recall the history of the dagger correctly, a little girl was willingly to give up her life to the gods to prevent the sandstorm, it reminded them of the good man can do. So the gods spared the girl's life (who was the first guardian, now Tamina is) and all of man kind. I'm guessing Dastan had a bit of divine help from the gods. The sacrifices. So maybe the gods were reminded again. So perhaps the gods reverse time to the point when all of the trouble started which was at the start of the movie. Just a bit of theorising here ;D It's really all I can think of. Then again its Hollywood, anything could happen *shrugs*. And also, I didn't like the fact that Tamina remembered none of it. Sure they had a bit of a lovey-dovey moment. It was a good ending and all I just would have preferred another one. I wish Tamina could have kept the memory of it which would have been like a little twist at the end ;D DASTAN AND TAMINA 4EVS!!! *girly squeal* ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 11:22:01 GMT -5
@doubar and thea : Well, yeah. I kind of agree with you there, but well, about they have the dagger and then lose it again, i didn't get that feeling actually. I felt it okay for them to have it and then lose it. I mean it's the object that everyone is after, let aside the fact that its attracting shape makes it an aim for who sees it even without known about its power. So, i think it's okay or where the thrille will come from. Though this might be some of the weakness points that some movies get because they concentrate on only one object that everyone is after. any way, i really rolled my eyes when the leader of the hassansins came and told Nizam that they found the sand glass, then Nizam told him that he lost the dagger. Well, it sounded like a play of a cat and a rat then. but it wasn't totally off for me.
about the end, okay, i thought a lot about this matter. Well, I predicted the end since Tus died. They killed everyone in the movie except Tamina who died after that. So, that was totally havoc that should be solved by returning back the time. but well, when the time returned to the point Dastan found the dagger in, it may sounded like everything is going to be the same and why they made all the movie then, but in this new time, Dastan knew about the whole sand of time tale and can help saving the day before going over a holy city which supposed to be protected by the gods.
I totally agree with Thea, there about the Gods being reminded by the potential good within man by the sacrifice of Tamina and then Dastan. I think that the producers wanted it to be like that.
Another interpretaion is that Tamina told Dastan that she wished if they stayed together. May be the Gods, seeing the sacrifice one of their guardians makes and then her wish made them decide to give them another chance.
about Tamina not remembering anything, well, i don't TOTALLY find it to be a sad end. Well, when Tamina first met Dastan, she saw him as a brutal persian who wreckage the walls of her city. She hated him and despised him at first. But that was in the time which shall not pass. In this new time, she saw him as a rescuer for her city. even if anyone can describe this scene -in the fountain- they might describe the look in Tamina's eyes of one of familirity which may give hints that she might have felt of knowing him before. lilke in a fic here these lines
"'Please don't mock me, Prince', she said, her voice steady, but just a little bit tinged with curiosity, because she felt she was supposed to know this would happen, as if she had witnessed a situation like this before, as if she was supposed to remember something that hung at the edge of her memory and she couldn't for the life of her recollect what it was."
Being able to accept and even love him though he was an invader gives great possibilities that she may find the same man who deserved to be loved but as a rescuer.
Okay, let aside all of my blah blah for a second, 'cause a somewhat weird idea got in my mind and i wanted deeply to share it. Don't you, guys feel that this movie holds a political message?
Well, the idea of the persian princes are being decived and misguided to invade a holy city, thinking that it might have some weapons. Doesn't that so similar to the idea the U.S. -and even U.K.- wanted to persuade the whole international socity with. Invading Iraq, searching for neuclear weapons , then the final result that the country is totally free of any neuclear stuff. To calm down the international anger, the said countries began to talk about them being misguided to invade Iraq and that they will try to fix everything. I highly believe that this Disney movie holds this kind of messages.
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 11:28:33 GMT -5
Really? Thanks a lot, honey The same effects. Well, I didn't add much of these effects. I just blended every pic i found in my way and here is the result. ;D then added some "Ethernal effects and softended the details" abit *gasps as well* Yeah it's. and the fan made it because he/she was being inspired by the girl's fanfic. That may give hints about how good it may be. @thea: YEAH!!! *squeals as well* ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Doubar on Dec 22, 2010 13:15:16 GMT -5
@thea: Good to know I was not the only one there. And yeah, I do agree on the Gods, too. In fact I even think this explanation to be a great and even somewhat lyrical one - only that it didn't come across in the movie at all IMO. But, indeed, it would even explain why Dastan ended up at exactly that point of time where he could still change the world's fate. ;D And as for the remembering: well, to me it seemed to be pretty logical since she had fallen and thus had no contact with the dagger anymore. In fact, I had expected the uncle to remember it all as well, since he, too, had had contact with the dagger when time reversed. However, I hear you on that one. Would've been way too cute if she, too, had remembered it all and have givem him this knowing look. ;D But how things were in the end... that was okay, too. alex: Yeah, well, like I said, I guess it's a personal thing. It seemed to be too repetitive to me, really, though of course you got a point there. After all it was a precious dagger indeed. Heh, and yeah, the scene with the Assassine... that was a lame line, but it was short, thus I didn't bother about it too much. As for the end: Yeah, at some point I, too, started to suspect that hey might make a happy happy ending and reverse the time, but I didn't really know it. Still, the way could've been shown better. I do agree fully with your and Thea's idea though. The explanation that the Gods were responsible for the good outcome is the most logical one and personally, I like it even best - if only it had been shown better in the movie. Oh, and yes, good ideas there on Tamina and the chance she and Dastan have with not remembering. And the lines you quoted described it very nicely - this suppressed memory that might tell her that her and his fate are one. Concerning the message: well, you got a good point there, indeed. I have to admit I didn't think of that one at first, but really, it sounds familiar. However, for me, personally, the main message of the film was the one his father told him right at the beginning: that a good man would try to win with saving as many lifes as possible, but that a great man would have listened to his heart and prevented it all to happen. His brother had not listened to his heart (and Dastan) at first and thus started it all; Dastan had not listened to his heart and had given way. Or maybe that's just what I'd like to see in there. *shrugs* In any case: yup, there is indeed a certain similarity - a similarity I think that can be applied to countless wars and wrong deeds. Yes, really!! Aww, and those are the only ones you used? Amazing!!! You're a real master with those tools, honey!!!! |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 13:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah, for sure this is one of the messages the movie held, The moral one. but we got to know in politics something that is called soft power. I won't go further in this one 'cause i don't want to bug your brain with my political stuff. but in this soft power we know that every kind of media holds a certain political message. Aw, that's so sweet of you |
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Post by Doubar on Dec 22, 2010 13:34:56 GMT -5
Aww, no, I don't mind you filling my brain with poticial things. ;D Anyhow. Yes, think that's quite right - that this one was the moral message, and that, in addition to this, there's also a politicial one. And well, I have to admit I don't know whether in each and every movie such a message can be found, but since politics has ever since influenced our lives and is part of them, too, I could well imagine this to be true. Oww, and you know me, honey: just saying what I think. |
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Post by 19101989 on Dec 22, 2010 13:37:31 GMT -5
Aww, no, I don't mind you filling my brain with poticial things. ;D ;D |
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Post by Doubar on Dec 22, 2010 13:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by Doubar on Dec 22, 2010 14:18:33 GMT -5
Some more fiddling about... Similar to the other ones:  And a new outline:  |
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Post by Rongar on Dec 22, 2010 16:33:00 GMT -5
Nice
Just a warning Bryn, Time Turned Over isn't completed.
The authors had some RL hits and hasn't gotten back to writing. I don't know if she will or not, but it's still a fav of mine.
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I'm so can't wait for reading it and it's long as well. I hope that it won't reuin the movie with any bad ending though. 
*does her very best puppy dog eyes*
It may be just me, but they overdid it there. :-( 
