Rongar
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Post by Rongar on Aug 23, 2009 10:44:04 GMT -5
That okay Doubar!
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Post by firouz on Aug 24, 2009 0:43:19 GMT -5
I always wondered.... If Maeve had returned, would her defensiveness of her past/female assertivenesss calmed down under Dim-Dim's direct teachings or not? Most M/B stories had Maeve more calm due to Dim-Dim's teachings... I highly doubt it. Also, I was kind-of glad that Maeve never returned when I read that Ed wanted to make Maeve into this *itch of a Demon Huntress and leave the crew...and LEAVE DERMOTT behind!! *shudders* I can imagine it... Her outfit would have changed into something more Xena (as in: more cleavage, less skirt ) That’s good, right? ;D The interaction between Bryn and Maeve will for sure be interesting ... although I hope they get along. A cat fight on board would be a sad thing. Why? Not after Sinbad! Where did you get that idea?!?! And Maeve will be suspicious of Bryn at first, just because she is another female on the ship, I would think. Maeve would not be so jealous of Bryn, because she has seen her through the pool and because Dim-Dim trusts Bryn. But the real sparks will fly when Bryn is revealed as Rumina’s sister. Of course, it is also up to my sweet fireball. ;D Jackie wasn’t coming back, and they had this unfinished plotline about Maeve which linked back to so many issues, and they couldn’t go on in leaving them behind like in season 2, the fan were already pissed off. That is why I think the Bryn being Maeve idea would be perfect. It solves everything. Where did you hear that? Any idea where to send this first one. Do yall want it posted here, on PMs, or through e-mail? Hm…………. I think PM would be good since the copyright stuff. But honestly, I don’t care and I don’t think the author would mind as long as you give her credit by writing the author’s name.
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Post by Sinbad on Aug 24, 2009 6:46:04 GMT -5
Not after Sinbad! Where did you get that idea?!?! From you? You said that Bryn understands that he sees her as a friend, remember? That is why I think the Bryn being Maeve idea would be perfect. It solves everything. Hm... not sure about that. Bryn an Maeve are completely different characters, Maeve always represented fire to me, Bryn was more earth (*puts on super sophisticated look and goes on explaining* Which is why Maeve / Sinbad are a better match than Sinbad Bryn because... *takes out chalk and starts scribbling mathematic symbols on a blackboard that pops out from nowhere* Since Sinbad represents water, ergo: Water + Fire = Steam whereas Water + Earth = Mud. ;D ;D )
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Post by firouz on Aug 24, 2009 8:25:36 GMT -5
Oh, the earth, fire mumble, jumble. Do you remember what I said about the Bryn being Maeve idea? To me, it has nothing to do with earth, fire, and water. This is not my idea but a modified version of someone else. After seeing Bryn’s bracelet, Sinbad mentions a storm. For a while, I thought that the storm was the one that washed Maeve away, but I realized that Sinbad was referring to a storm similar to that when he got his bracelet. What if, the storm that washed Maeve away was the same storm that Bryn got her bracelet? What if Bryn is actually Maeve? Dimdim changed Maeve’s appearance into Bryn so Rumina and Turok would not find her. Therefore, she would be safe. Dimdim placed the bracelet on Maeve (Bryn) so Sinbad would find her. Sinbad would have no idea that Bryn was Maeve. However, Dimdim’s spell backfired in that it took away Maeve’s (Bryn’s) memories. Dimdim did not tell Sinbad what he had done, because he suspected Rumina may hear. Instead, he gives the false impression that Maeve is safe with him. Rumina knows that Dimdim is lying but has no clue where Maeve is. Over time Bryn would act more and more like Maeve, because it is a characteristic of herself, and Sinbad and Rumina will get suspicious. This way there could still be Maeve. She just won't be played by Jackie, but instead by Mariah. The key was to bring back Maeve somehow even though Jackie was not coming back. And in a way, Bryn in the rpg is acting more and more like Maeve. ;D But I agree that here, Maeve and Bryn are two different people. ;D
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Post by Dermott on Aug 24, 2009 9:59:00 GMT -5
Mala and Doubar Thank you :saves the link in her aos folder: ^.^ and yes, maybe if the original author is not into the fandom anymore and we can’t ask her permission to publish the fic here, it’s better to use PMs. @firouzNowhere. I was just guessing a reason to justify the use of the Demon Huntress idea @niliAhahahhahah this is just priceless
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Post by firouz on Aug 24, 2009 10:06:59 GMT -5
Mala and Doubar Thank you :saves the link in her aos folder: ^.^ qand yes, maybe if the original author is not into the fandom anymore and we can’t ask her permission to publish the fic here, it’s better to use PMs. or PMS ;D
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Post by Dermott on Aug 24, 2009 10:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by Kriss on Aug 24, 2009 10:18:07 GMT -5
Mala and Doubar Thank you :saves the link in her aos folder: ^.^ qand yes, maybe if the original author is not into the fandom anymore and we can’t ask her permission to publish the fic here, it’s better to use PMs. or PMS ;D Men
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Post by Doubar on Aug 24, 2009 12:41:05 GMT -5
@firouz: Just like Sinbad said: from Bryn actually. Her bio says that she accepts him loving Maeve and ... *shifty eyes* ... didn't Bryn/you say something about her wanting Doubar? *raises eyebrows* I'll tell you why I don't like the idea of having a cat fight on board: it will split the crew long before Rumi and Bryn's past get to do that. What do you think will happen with the guys? They all value Maeve - you know what she's for Sinbad, for Doubar she's like a little sister, to the others she's a close friend; but they also like Bryn. We'd have a constant awkwardness if Bryn and Maeve were really to despise each other. So for many reasons I for one don't like the thought of having those two be constantly at each other's throats. This I can agree with. But what you described here doesn't exactly sound like the catfight you were so surprised about that I didn't like it. Well, I have to admit the idea you elaborated in the later post is not bad and for the show that in deed would have been a possibility... even though I agree with Sinbad there, saying that the two were too different to be one and the same. Which isn't all that hard to be missed. @sinbad: *nods in agreement* Aye! Love the elemental way one can interpet them. And I as well always saw Bryn as earth! ;D @dermott: And it is a cool idea I have to admit. One could use this in a fic.
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Post by Sinbad on Aug 24, 2009 13:07:25 GMT -5
Firouz: What I was referring to earlier was also indirectly referring to the temperaments of these two characters, Maeve and Bryn. Maeve and Bryn are too different to be the same person. Even with changed appearance and without memory I am sure Sinbad might have gotten suspicious at the one or other point and the two of them would definitely also have had their occasional quarrels. Bryn is too calm to be Maeve in disguise me thinks.
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Post by Doubar on Aug 24, 2009 14:11:52 GMT -5
Well, I dare foretell that Firouz is going to answer you that Bryn's temper is changing here as well and could also have in the series. But in general Ipersonally think you're right. The Bryn we got to see in the show was a calm one even though in some moments she was a real fighter. But even there she had been totally different from the Lass. Our rpg Bryn however is starting to have a temper at times as well. ;P
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Post by firouz on Aug 24, 2009 19:17:36 GMT -5
Firouz: What I was referring to earlier was also indirectly referring to the temperaments of these two characters, Maeve and Bryn. Maeve and Bryn are too different to be the same person. Even with changed appearance and without memory I am sure Sinbad might have gotten suspicious at the one or other point and the two of them would definitely also have had their occasional quarrels. Bryn is too calm to be Maeve in disguise me thinks. You know, I think you are set at seeing Bryn and Maeve as two separate people. I too admit that Maeve and Bryn seemed totally opposites in the show. But when looking at the big picture, it makes sense that Maeve and Bryn could be the same person. People are not born with a different personality. They develop it. Bryn, having lost her personality, was like being reborn. You don't know, maybe Maeve was much calmer when she was young. It was everything she went through, loosing her parents, loosing Dermott, being chased by boys (according to some stories), being abused (according to another story), and loosing her first lover (according to a third story), that made Maeve who she was. Maeve put up her defenses because "the wounds in her heart is as deep as the wounds in yours." Bryn had none of this. Therefore, she was calm. But in the last year, she has built up a personality. That is my (Bryn's ) job. Although she had not faced what Maeve had faced as a child, she has built up anger, frustration, and fear along with compassion. You may find that Bryn may turn out to be a lot like Maeve. And with the mention that Bryn is the sister of the most hated sorceress in the east, that would certainly open up her own wounds. ;D Therefore, could they have been the same person: very possible. It is just a thought, but as I pointed here, could be very logical. At least it is a far better idea than a demon hunter. And same goes to Turok. People are not born evil, although you could argue that Turok's brain was not properly developed. (There are studies that if a part of the brain is not developed, the person is born evil.) Ignoring this medical info, Turok would become evil through the death of his wife, just like Anakin joined the dark side hoping to prevent his wife's death. And Rumina, well, read my story, Through the Trees, on ff.net. ;D I probably should have named it Through the Looking Glass, instead.
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Rongar
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Post by Rongar on Aug 24, 2009 20:37:33 GMT -5
Excellent points Firouz! She could be Maeve but at the same time she could and has been developing into her own person. Reintergrating her "old" personality with her "new" personality would be a struggle as they are different and the same at the same time.
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Post by Doubar on Aug 24, 2009 23:51:17 GMT -5
Plus, true, none is born with a personality but with a temper. Believe me, I'm seeing enough newborns these days to tell that every child even in this state is different. And although I agree with you saying that what she experienced made Maeve be the one who she is, I'd dare and say that she's always had that temper. And Bryn was very far away from that. Plus, err ... Firouz: I really like you giving Bryn some personality but please make her develop her own one. After all we already have a Maeve. - Just my opinion of course.
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Post by firouz on Aug 25, 2009 0:12:04 GMT -5
Plus, err ... Firouz: I really like you giving Bryn some personality but please make her develop her own one. After all we already have a Maeve. - Just my opinion of course. Oh, she will, yes. ;D Maybe she will become the brat Anakin was in Episode II. ;D Or maybe she will become like Rumina or a little like Maeve. ;D I highly doubt she will become exactly like Maeve, because like I said, what Maeve has gone through is unique to her.
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