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Post by manche on May 30, 2013 13:44:56 GMT -5
One of better episodes from this season for me.
I am not sure why, because the main plot with the killing dolls was not so much original, there was not much room for the most of the crew, a few strange things were here, some characters were annoying for me (especially Fallon and Ellice) but there was interesting atmosphere, one of little more interesting villian from this season (i like this actor quite, it was his second bad guy in the series) also character of Aidan belonged to those a bit more interesting characters from this season. And we found something from the history of our brothers. And the ending, it looked as a little more open end, which is not so much typical for this Tv series.
And I am not sure, but I think that the actor who played Jared, had an role in this Tv series before. Anyone knows if is true?
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Post by manche on Jul 2, 2014 12:37:10 GMT -5
One more question towards this episode, i always thought that this attack was aimed only at Sinbad, Doubar and the rest of the old adventurers, but in our dubbing Bryn said that "the Bakbuk's revenge relates to all of us". Maybe it is a mistake of our dubbing (Bryn or Rongar were not known to Sinbad and the others at this time, Firouz could have been) or a mistake of our screewriters. Does somebody know what was said in the original (somewhere after the kidnapping of the Aidan's bride).
And i have found recently that the actor who played Jared really had a different role in this tv series. He played the representative of the admiral Azul from the king Firouz.
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Post by Doubar on Jul 3, 2014 12:28:30 GMT -5
Well, I must admit I'm not sure about the English original (would have to check on that one!) but even if Bryn and Rongar weren't know to Bakbuk it still seems reasonable enough for Bryn to say that line. Because in the end Bakbuk did indeed give out dolls to all of them and they attacked everyone inside this castle. I think, it didn't matter too much to him whether there might be people who have not been involved in the tragedy of his childhood. He wanted to have his revenge and certainly in his eyes friends of those he hated were just as good a target as the Adventurers themselves. At least, it certainly would make sense that way.
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Post by manche on Jul 3, 2014 12:39:20 GMT -5
Yes, it makes sense, Doubar. I did not think about it from this angle so far but you are completely right. He probably had hundreds of these dolls in the castle and they were able to kill everyone whom they met. And there definitely were more victims than a few adventurers.
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Post by manche on Jan 21, 2016 18:04:13 GMT -5
I do not know but if I got a similar warning by a good friend who died under suspicious circumstances I would certainly rid of the "precious" gift very quickly. But on the other hand, Babkuk certainly counted with this possibility as well, he let out of the bag hundreds of other.
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Post by Doubar on Jan 30, 2016 7:50:25 GMT -5
True that, Manche! It seems kind of weird that the Adventurers keep puppets that have been brought to them under these circumstances. On the other hand, we ought to consider that in some cultures it's kind of a no-go to reject a present (not that AoS is overly famous for being consistent with cultures though ) so maybe there we've got an explanation. Still, the whole affair is a bit odd indeed which is also the reason why I don't like this ep too much.
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Post by manche on Jan 30, 2016 9:26:46 GMT -5
Still, the whole affair is a bit odd indeed which is also the reason why I don't like this ep too much. Oh, so this is not a very favourite episode of you? For me, this episode it quite neutral, it did not count to my favourite, but I know worse episodes from this season as well. I agree that keeping of these puppets was not a very good idea. Maybe I would understand in the cases of some minor characters who did not experience so many adventures and they are not so suspicious of things (for example Jared could not have been a very bright person when he did not get a better idea than drink himself during the dangerous situation) but the crew met with enough dangerous creatures to be more careful. The dolls would probably return if Adventurers simply threw them out the window of the castle but they could try to do something more radical with them (they could use them as fuel in a fireplace for example) On the slight defence of our heroes, Babkuk could still finish his revenge, even if all Adventures got rid of their gifts immediately after his leaving of the castle. There were hundreds of next dolls in the castle and they would still attack people there.
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Post by manche on Oct 27, 2018 11:42:39 GMT -5
And should not the crew be more suspicious of Bakbuk when he appeared in the castle? They saw him pretty close to the house of the first victim and this victim warned them before not taking of these dolls. They certainly did not have any direct evidence about his quilt, but still.
And Bakbuk quite risked when he decided to kill this man before the beginning of his small action, did not he? Maybe he was forced to do it because this man discovered or sensed something, but it could alert all other adventurers and seriously endanger his plan.
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