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Post by Doubar on Jun 19, 2013 9:56:15 GMT -5
Same here. I'm afraid to say though that I don't think we'd ever have seen those two together in one crew. In one of his interviews Naha mentioned that IF Maeve had ever returned it would have been as sort of a demon-hunter who's on her very own mission. So I guess at the most, she would have been a guest in one ep - closing the story arch that was started in S1 but nothing more than that.
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Post by manche on Jun 19, 2013 13:49:29 GMT -5
The idea is not bad, but it would be the big disappointment for me. I would wish Maeve the happy return to her best friends and her beloved man forever so much.
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Post by Doubar on Jun 19, 2013 14:02:52 GMT -5
I know, and I would have wished for the same. But no, I don't think we'd have gotten to see this. Oh, btw, here's what I meant: Would Maeve have ever returned?
Frankly, I don't know whether Maeve would have returned. When the actress playing Maeve and the company producing the show parted ways, it wasn't pretty. I was flummoxed. I thought the problems, and there WERE problems, on the set could have been solved. The execs felt that they had been patient, and enough was enough. Depending on how angry I was about the "real life" situation, I envisioned Maeve either dying or returning as a firebrand "demon hunter" who would have no time for Sinbad. One thing I do know: Maeve and Sinbad would have never gotten together. I had conceived the two characters as being sort of a William Powell- Myrna Loy team ala "The Thin Man," or a John Wayne-Maureen O'Hara team ala "The Quiet Man." After the first two episodes, it became evident to all of us behind the cameras, that that kind of relationship wasn't going to be. The line readings left a bit to be desired. So, we gave up on that. That's from Naha's Beyond Outline interview and it can be found on farfaraway: www.farfarawaysite.com/sinbad/edcorner/beyond.htmTo be honest, I am not sure what he meant with "they gave up on that" because while the relationship they first envisioned might not have worked out, there definitely *was* something evolving between them.
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Post by manche on Oct 13, 2014 13:51:15 GMT -5
One question towards Rongar's abilities, it was said if he gained all of them after his leaving of Bollnah or he was experienced in some fighting techniques before his departure?
And I like the thought of Mustapha of being the Rongar's bodyguard very much. I know that Doubar mentioned that he seemed to be very impatient and rude for this role, but it could be explained in a way. For example Mustapha could have been the only man on the Rongar's side during the riot against him and he could have been so disgusted how all people from Bollnah turned their backs on their ruler when he needed them the most that it changed his personality and he became a ruder person because of that. An impatient man could have been before, everyone has a mistake. I think that I use this idea of bodyguard in my story a little.
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Post by Eric/Deamus on Oct 13, 2014 17:41:32 GMT -5
One question towards Rongar's abilities, it was said if he gained all of them after his leaving of Bollnah or he was experienced in some fighting techniques before his departure? I'm interested in your question as well Manche.... S2 being my least favorite made me watch it very few times I must admit, thus many important info escaped me this way! in my personal opinion, though i don't know the real case, i'd go for the second choice... but i really don't know what is the truth that was mentioned in the series. i'm a bit lost by your words... who is the bodyguard and who was rude and impatient? interested in that too!
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Post by manche on Oct 14, 2014 11:45:30 GMT -5
I mean the character of Mustapha now in the both cases, we had a small discusion about it earlier, there are links for it: distandlands.proboards.com/post/82496/thread, distandlands.proboards.com/post/82513/thread I little agree with the Doubar's opinion that Mustapha was quite impatient and a little rude for the role of bodyguard of the prince, but despite this i like this thought and i simply offered the particular possibilities, how we could explain that he was the bodyguard of the prince despite these not so much appropriate aspects of his character for this job (he could gain some of them after the expulsion of Rongar from Bollnah, as the reaction to the situation which he experienced there for example). I am sorry that i have confused you, dear Eric.
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Post by Eric/Deamus on Oct 17, 2014 9:12:54 GMT -5
Nope, there is nothing to be sorry about, it's all my fault as i wasn't following the conversation from the start well the idea of having Mustapha as Rongar's bodyguard is new to me, part of me like it but again, things didn't give the feeling of it. I felt like they are more as friends, means equals not as a person and his bodyguard. Add to that the feeling that Rongar doesn't need a bodyguard. i think his character is very independent as a worrior himself with such sharp skills i don't think he would accept one of them. And, yeah his character is little difficult to have such a job. I totally agree with that.
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Post by manche on Oct 17, 2014 11:37:27 GMT -5
It is the truth that Rongar as a member of the crew did not need a bodyguard definitely. But we can not know if he was so skilled in fight before his overthrowing in Bollnah. He undoubtedly had some experience with fight before but maybe he could have extended his skills after his departure into the form which he had when he became a member of the crew (I would think especially about the throwing of knives there) .
And I agree it looked as the equal friendship, but again, when Rongar left Bollnah and he started a new life, their relationship could have developed in a new way (if they really were in the relationship of a prince and his trusted bodyguard) and they could become more equal in their friendship during the progress of time. But I admit that this all is only a speculation from my side.
It does not sound so much probably, but I like this thought quite and I decided to use this idea in my story. And I am quite convinced now, that Mustapha knew the truth about the Rongar's past in the TV series, at least in a certain scale. Before joining of Rongar to the crew he was the closest person to him at this time.
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Post by manche on Oct 8, 2016 15:36:03 GMT -5
I do not know if this thread is the best place for this opinion but I talked with Doubar on this forum about the special relationship between Maeve and Rongar, but we could not specify why we see this special bond between them. There we could find an explanation for this bond. They were not aware of this fact, but their fates very quite similar. They had unresolved things in their lives which influenced the development of their lives very much. (Maeve had her brother turned into a hawk and her life quest to defeat Rumina, Rongar was forced to leave behind his former life behind, leave all people who he loved, he was also betrayed by his own people, they turned their back on him during a crisis).
The rest of the guys experienced unpleasant things in their lives, but they did not seem to be affected by them anymore. There still were some scars in their hearts, but in these cases seemed to be closed for them. (Sinbad was also affected by the death of Lea, it changed his life path forever, but with the exception of his meeting with Harun, this chapter seemed to be closed for him at this time). Even Rongar got the chance to close this chapter in the season two and I would say that it happened, but he still had this unresolved issue when Maeve was around him.
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