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Post by Doubar on Apr 15, 2013 6:12:54 GMT -5
Hum, I guess the odd balance in Bryn's magic might be caused by the fact that they were forced to develop the season differently from what they first had planned on. The way I see it, and telling from what we know, there originally had been plans to add Bryn but still keep Maeve in the show, which would have allowed Bryn to be a more balanced character. But with Maeve gone she had to fill in that void while still being independent in a way. So on one hand she had to be the Nomad's resident sorceress and as such somewhat competent in using magic, and on the other she had to be the lost and mysterious girl who has no real control over her powers. But it's true indeed, while sometimes she seems to be really powerful, at others her magic is pretty much useless. Poor thing really. Oh, but don't get me started on those vampires, really! x.x They must be the stupiest vampires that ever existed! Not only that they had windows but also that they only covered them with curtains. Curtains! Now, if they had at least blocked them up, with stone or wood or anything, but.... curtains? That gives me a real headache! xP I'm not sure about Marissa (that was the blonde woman, right?) though. I thought she was just a servant and in fact human. She did want to become a vampire though, and to become Orlock's wife. Or at least that's how I got it. And the two crewmen... whoa, I don't even remember them anymore. O.o But I only watched this ep once or twice. It's really none of my favourites so maybe that's why I forgot. Oh, or do you mean that whiny guy who was with the crew in prison? In any case, aye, I do agree with you - it was unnecessary to describe him as such a coward all time long. Weird does not even describe it. It was all like *quoting myself here for a moment*: Bryn: Er, guys, there are others in the dungeons, too. Shouldn't we go and free them? Sinbad: *walking by* Ah, they'll figure out how to escape. Firouz: But what with the guards? Will they really let them out? Doubar: Who cares? Let's go home. We've been heroic enough today. Rongar: *shrugs* >.>
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Post by manche on Apr 15, 2013 7:49:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure about Marissa (that was the blonde woman, right?) though. I thought she was just a servant and in fact human. She did want to become a vampire though, and to become Orlock's wife. Or at least that's how I got it. And the two crewmen... whoa, I don't even remember them anymore. O.o But I only watched this ep once or twice. It's really none of my favourites so maybe that's why I forgot. Oh, or do you mean that whiny guy who was with the crew in prison? In any case, aye, I do agree with you - it was unnecessary to describe him as such a coward all time long. Weird does not even describe it. It was all like *quoting myself here for a moment*: Bryn: Er, guys, there are others in the dungeons, too. Shouldn't we go and free them? Sinbad: *walking by* Ah, they'll figure out how to escape. Firouz: But what with the guards? Will they really let them out? Doubar: Who cares? Let's go home. We've been heroic enough today. Rongar: *shrugs* >.> Your description is sitting very well. In the style: Anyone cares about these unknown people? No. You probably have the truth with Marissa, she probably was not the vampire, she only wanted to be the vampire. And the thing with the crewman (he named Barada), it was very pathetic. He only said useful phrases as: "we all die here." the whole time, he did not try to fight with guards as the others (Firouz tried it and he was also bound... but Firouz is a main character). At the end of the episode he seemed that he found a piece of courage, but it was not important, because our hero Sindibad arrived.
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Post by Doubar on Apr 15, 2013 13:30:20 GMT -5
In the style: Anyone care about these unknown people? No. Now, but that's a perfect summary of the situation as well. ^^ About Marissa: yeah, I really think she was just a mortal but wanted to be more than that. As far as I remember she was in love with the main vampire (forgot his name) and wanted to be at his side. Which is also the reason why she didn't really like Kalila (or whatever the she-vampire was called). And Barada... oh, now I think I remember him. The guy who was constantly whining that they'd all gonna die. Right. Yeah, that was a bit mean. I mean, he's in Sinbad's crew. You'd really expect people in that crew to know what they're getting themselves into. It's not like Sinbad was a nobody after all. *shrugs*
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Post by manche on Apr 15, 2013 14:07:03 GMT -5
And the second crewman behaved like a little redneck. He was the quest in the castle and would be fine to show some courteous manners.
And it was funny, how Barada tried to persuade Sindibad to choose him instead of Rongar. He would probably had run very quickly after leaving of the castle. Only at the end he found a piece of courage, when he said that he will avenge his dead friend. 10 seconds of courage, it was a great performance.
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Post by Doubar on Apr 15, 2013 18:23:07 GMT -5
Ah, I really should watch that ep again. I don't even remember that Barada tried to make the captain choose him instead of Rongar. x) *snickers* Why, 10 seconds of courage are better than none, right? ;D Seriously though, it's indeed mean what they did with Barada there. Though maybe we should be content that there was at least a crew member who got to say a line or two. Mostly they're just bystanders or, like you said, redshirts. (Btw.: I actually never heard the term "Redshirt" before but I just googled it and found it cool - and funny - to read where it originated from. ^^ )
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Post by manche on Jun 16, 2013 14:16:51 GMT -5
I And Barada... oh, now I think I remember him. The guy who was constantly whining that they'd all gonna die. Right. Yeah, that was a bit mean. I mean, he's in Sinbad's crew. You'd really expect people in that crew to know what they're getting themselves into. It's not like Sinbad was a nobody after all. *shrugs* For this reason I decided to include him to my story, because I think that each member of this crew deserves dignified part so i want to improve his reputation a little. (Barada was also one of the few crewmen from the second season who survived the mass killing of minor crewmen)
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Post by Firouz on Jun 17, 2013 15:48:06 GMT -5
So Doubar, the redshirts of Star Trek The Original Series...the Redshirts ALWAYS died! LOL There is a running joke now in American Culture..."Don't wear red if you wanna live!"
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Post by Doubar on Jun 19, 2013 8:01:50 GMT -5
Haahaha, seriously? It even became a running joke? Awesome. ;D
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Post by manche on Feb 2, 2015 11:21:52 GMT -5
Weird does not even describe it. It was all like *quoting myself here for a moment*: Bryn: Er, guys, there are others in the dungeons, too. Shouldn't we go and free them? Sinbad: *walking by* Ah, they'll figure out how to escape. Firouz: But what with the guards? Will they really let them out? Doubar: Who cares? Let's go home. We've been heroic enough today. Rongar: *shrugs* >.> It was really a ridiculous scene and I think that it was the only time when something like this happened in this TV series. Crew always tried to save all people around them when they faced a dangerous situation and there they left them behind at the mercy of guards. Barada can probably thank the God that Sinbad or Doubar did not hit him over the head and leave him there as well at the end of the episode when he was only a minor character. And do you notice that when the crew separated in the second season that it was almost in every case Rongar who stayed with Sinbad for the whole time or longer than the others (maybe with the exception of Bryn)?
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Post by manche on Apr 6, 2015 8:03:10 GMT -5
@wind: Yup. I'm aware the fact though that most likely this was nothing but caring for a friend / someone who's like a(nother) little sister to him, but uh well, I still find it to be way sweet [and love to interpret it in another way *shifty eyes, grins broadly*]. ;D You are right but if they wanted to picture this as simple caring about a friend, they could have written this effort to protect her into the script for Firouz as well. But they decided to choose Doubar for this.
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Post by Doubar on Apr 6, 2015 12:59:13 GMT -5
It was really a ridiculous scene and I think that it was the only time when something like this happened in this TV series. Crew always tried to save all people around them when they faced a dangerous situation and there they left them behind at the mercy of guards. That's true. I don't think I remember any other episode where they left innocents behind but here they just didn't care. Almost it seemed as if they'd not even noticed there were others in need of help there, which is truly out of character for this crew. Actually I must admit that, no, I didn't notice that. But thinking about it it seems to be true that it was mainly those two who worked together. Wonder why that was so. Which is why sometimes I think that during filming the first half of the Season they weren't decided yet on who to pair Bryn up with. After all, according to what Kal told us even before Jackie left for good they obviously wanted to add a second female protagonist to the crew, and she was meant to fall for Doubar. If that's the case then I can imagine by the time S2 happened they still had both options and were trying to give reason for both. Hence, Doubar was written to be very fond of her just in case they producers wanted this pairing to happen later on. It's just a theory but in all honesty, it's the impression the show gives me as a watcher. >.>
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Post by manche on Apr 6, 2015 14:02:36 GMT -5
Actually I must admit that, no, I didn't notice that. But thinking about it it seems to be true that it was mainly those two who worked together. Wonder why that was so. Maybe he considers Rongar to be the most capable member of his crew? He could choose anyone of them in this episode and everyone has some special ability: Bryn possesses magic, Firouz has his science, Doubar is exceptionally strong... despite all of this he chose Rongar for this journey.
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Post by Doubar on Apr 8, 2015 11:48:30 GMT -5
You've got a point there, Manche. Rongar is an exceptionally reliable alliance and his is a strength no one else of the crew possesses (and that's not meant to be offensive in any way or shape): silence. It's not just because he can't talk but also his moves and everything. If he wants to, I have no doubt he can approach an enemie unheard and unseen.
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Post by manche on Apr 9, 2019 6:17:32 GMT -5
In the middle of the episode, Sinbad and Rongar got closer to the castle of this baron (at the top of the high mountain), they are on the ground below, they make few steps and they are confrontated by this blonde woman (Marissa). She is thrown into the abyss after that fight. Is it my mistake or the abyss is suddenly located on the same side from which Rongar and Sinbad originally came? From where did this abyss appear? They were fighting in the small area, it does not look that they could get a long away from this starting point.
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